galiel

I dream of travelling with Astrud, too.

Ruy Lopez

If you want one more example. For several years in my thirties, I frequently dreamed of floating over rooftops and treetops and could push myself upwards by kicking my feet, the way one treads on water. My tendency was to sink if I did not use my legs. The experience persisted for years and occured probably 40 or 50 times. Then it stopped.

It was not astral travel, if such a thing exists, as described here but a different kind of a dream that was quite lucid, felt very real and unforgettable. I can still recreate the feeling in my mind. The other thing unusual about it was the setting or locale. It was not in my country but in the New England states, Ontario or Quebec in the fall when leaves were red , yellow and brown. Of course, I had previously seen those places physically.

If someone KNOWS what those lucid, repeating dreams were; i'd be most appreciative.

Galiel, my impression is you're making fun of the posts but what does Astrid or Astrud mean?

Thanks.
Just checked out google search on "lucid dreaming". There's plenty of stuff there. No sweat.

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galiel

Astrid Lundgren, author of Pippi Longstocking books.

Astrud Gilberto, Brazillian bossanova legend.

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Bible Humper

This describes experiences I had when I was young exactly. It wasn't quite like treading water, but I know exactly what you mean by kicking outwards.

Interesting that the experience was so similar, I wonder if it is due to some sort of vestigal, instinctual mental process connected with jumping.

Yes, I pulled this speculation out of my ass. But who knows?

Demosthenes

I had similiar dreams where I would be flying, often I'll be just floating around and I had to kick to get higher. The higher I got, the harder it got. It was like trying to move through a vicous medium. Sometimes that was just scary when someone was chasing me and I kept sinking back to the ground and to their waiting fingers.


As for astral projection, I was very interested in it. There were so many confusing literature about it online, till I came across a certain Bruce and his astral projection treaties. That certainly was an interesting reading.

A possible theory about the cause of astral projection is due to the way that brain holds the image of the body within itself. I recall there being experiments where people were given somehting to alter their consciousness and they reported astral projecting effects. The idea is that the world that we see is really just inside our head. Our brain's only capable of perceiving the world though out senses which it then reconstructs the world within the confines of our skulls. When an astral projection occur, our image of our bodies gets separated from where we associate our bodies to be. The image then moves about the world that our brain has constructed. The resulting effect is that it appears to us that we have left our bodies and are moving around the world, while in reality we have never left our bodies at all, but are just moving around our skulls. It's thought that when that body disassociation occurs in conjuction with lucid dreaming, it can be a very powerful psychological experience.

Tufted

I have had what I believe to be OBE's. The sensation was floating out of my body, and floating through the room. I have even passed through doors. I was conscious, at least I thought I was. It was like a lucid dream, but even more real. Anyway, during my last OBE I performed an experiment, as someone had earlier mentioned. I observed the clock in the kitchen, returned to my body and awoke. Well, the time was way off. My rational self concluded that the entire experience was just playing out in my mind. And just how could you see without your eyes.

Devilnaut

Lucid dreams can be strikingly real. I think it's all up to the imagination really. Usually if I have one, the only thing that tips me off that it's lucid is when my consciousness is fully functioning and i'm fully rational, and I am able to see things in the dream that contradicted w/ my real knowledge (of how the real world functions, IE: people can't willingly fly, this must be a dream. I usually wake up after that ).

Like many here are reporting, I also have semi-lucid dreams where I'm able to fly. For me, though, it always has something to do with my hands. It's as if they control the direction in which I go if I concentrate hard enough. So, I put my hands above my center of gravity and concentrate, and I begin levitating. These dreams seem incredibly real to me because in them I have to use a specific process to fly, and I see real and consistent results. Of course, the fact that there's nothing special about my hands that could actually make them allow me to levitate usually brings me back to reality.

ax

yeah. lucid dreaming seems to make alot of sense! I wonder if it's related to when you dream you've fa;;en off something and you wake up kicking your leg out???.....

happyboy

you DO realize that things like astral projection and magic make for good novels, movies, comic books, roleplaying games, and video/computer games, but do not exist in real life, outside of the minds of wishful thinkers, right?

a VERY annoyed happyboy

ieyeasu

Hmmm...


"The ability to fly around outside one's own corpeal body does not factually exists as a human trait."

Close enough, you think, to the Jesus quote?