Darth Dane

Almost all humans are allowed to give life, even if the situation is horrendous, even if the parents are too young or too old, even if they are satanic or atheists, they can produce a baby.

Yet at the same token we are not allowed to take this life again, even if the life is to young or too old, or too weak or too strong, to im-practical or polluting.

If there is a God, and God is allowed to give and take life from creation as God sees fit, I am also allowed to do this, because my baby is my creation, it is not God's. If I didn't stick my stick of Love into the cave of Love, no Child would exist, and God sure didn't pop up his face to tell me, that the baby was God's.

God didn't create my baby, and as the baby's creator I am allowed to take the life that was given. Sure God(if there is one) gave me the gift of creation, but I decide when I will use the gift of creation, but also the gift of destruction! I must choose myself, with no one telling me how I should use my God given gift except the thoughts in my mind, and my conscience guiding my way.

As God creates and destroys, so do I, but on a smaller scale. We are one in essense but not equal in size.


I am the small x where God is the Big X.

By what force can we create and destroy?

Society is based on the idea, that destruction is bad and creation is good, and so we must keep our impulses in check.

The reason for this, I believe, is the subject of freewill. We cannot, or that is, we are not allowed, to take away the freewill from others. Humans have decided this, based on different reasons. Theists says it is because God commanded us not to kill. Atheists say it is the most pratical way of living, and because of it's practicality, we should adopt it.



Why are we allowed to create freely, but not destroy freely?

Why don't we have freewill to decide these things for ourselves, and not because society says so, or a book says so, or because "God" says so, but because we, as humans, says so?

"Humans was/is created in the image of God"

Who says anything on earth? God or humans?





DD - Love Spliff

yguy

Don't be idiotic. You didn't create the child any more than you created a tree by planting a seed.

Darth Dane

Don't be idiotic.

Ok

You didn't create the child any more than you created a tree by planting a seed.

What created me?

Atheist: The universe created you. A fluke of nature created us.

Theist: God created us

If I am not creating, either my thoughts, words, actions or babies, itis either the universe that does it, or it is God that does it.

If it is the universe, then the universe creates, when I ask(having sex), and through me the universe creates.

If it is God, then God creates, when I ask(having sex), and through me God creates.

I can choose what God/universe will create, well at least partially.
I can choose what God/universe will destroy, well at least partially.

If I am not creating myself, then God/universe is running through a pre-determined program.





DD - Love Spliff

Tenek

So where were all the parts before he and whichever female showed up? Create from nothing, no, but create from that which already is by making a new form, yes. Or do we have God filling the gap of sexual reproduction?

winstonjen

What do you mean? Ask yourself this: "Would the tree exist if the seed was never planted?"

yguy

No. Now ask yourself whether planting a seed is equivalent to creating a tree.

Darth Dane

No. Now ask yourself whether planting a seed is equivalent to creating a tree.

It is. Plant the seed in earth, put water over it, air to grow in, and fire to transform the energy/inherent life in the seed.





DD - Love Spliff

winstonjen

Essentially it is, because that tree wouldn't exist if the seed wasn't planted.

yguy

And just where did that energy/inherent life come from?

yguy

Are you also of the opinion that flipping a switch is what makes a light bulb glow?