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reuel · 12-31-2002, 10:52 AM

hello jayjay,

i think the difference between "judaism" and "rabbinic," at least in the context of the present question, is that the former refers to judaism as practiced before 70 a.d. when the temple was still in existence and temple sacrifice was the order of the day. with the temple still in effect, judaism was defined by temple cultus. after the temple was destroyed, the study of torah became the "religion" of judaism. thus, the rabbinic era was ushered in by the destruction of the temple. since 70 a.d., the study of torah has defined judaism, and so it exists today.
i hope this helps.

reuel.

nijjhar · 12-31-2002, 11:18 AM

Hi,

As He did the Will of God and not his own will, His religion was Islam. Not the present Islam in which you do the wills of Mullahs, Fatwas, INSHMULLAHS but the Real one inwhich you submit yourself to the Will of Allah, called INSHALLAH.

Jayjay · 12-31-2002, 11:24 AM

At the moment, Judaism leads with a tight margin of 100%. This is exciting.

Tom Sawyer · 12-31-2002, 11:45 AM

According to Monty Python, the Wise Men said that Jesus was the King of the Jews, which would make him Jewish.

If anyone knows of a more authorative historical source than a defunct British comedy troupe, I'd like to hear it

nijjhar · 12-31-2002, 12:55 PM

Jesus belonged to the Royal Kingdom of God where the highest, Royal King serves people rather than Lord over them as the antichrist Popes do.

Royal Kingdom is of the heart and not of the this secular world as Kings rule.

sakrilege · 12-31-2002, 01:55 PM

nijjhar, you remind me of Amos & Boro Nut rolled into one!

And I put down that jesus was jewish.

nijjhar · 12-31-2002, 02:08 PM

Hi,

In Judaism, wife and children obey their head of family, the man and the man obeys his Rabbi. But in Jesus, both men and women are equal and they both do the Will of God and not of any man such as Pope, Mullahs, etc.

So, the religion of Jesus was not Judaism but Islam.

Butters · 12-31-2002, 03:36 PM

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So, the religion of Jesus was not Judaism but Islam.

I'd love to see you post this on a Christian site!

As for Jesus, I've only met one person that claimed he was not Jewish. That person was a klan member, and claimed Jesus was a Christian. After I claimed Jesus was a jew, I thought we were going to come to blows. He calmed down and became very confused after I pulled the Bible out and showed him what it said about him.

nijjhar · 12-31-2002, 03:42 PM

Word of God is not learnt from Books but through common sense or holy spirit.

So, learn things through common sense.

How could you call a religion Islam when the Mullahs impose their views?

INSHMULLAH IS NOT ISLAM

Eudaimonist · 12-31-2002, 03:54 PM

Don't all of you know that Jesus is a clone of the Elohim? That makes him a Raelian. Or is that an Elohimian?

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12-31-2002, 10:52 AM	#11
reuel New Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: laredo, texas Posts: 3	hello jayjay, i think the difference between "judaism" and "rabbinic," at least in the context of the present question, is that the former refers to judaism as practiced before 70 a.d. when the temple was still in existence and temple sacrifice was the order of the day. with the temple still in effect, judaism was defined by temple cultus. after the temple was destroyed, the study of torah became the "religion" of judaism. thus, the rabbinic era was ushered in by the destruction of the temple. since 70 a.d., the study of torah has defined judaism, and so it exists today. i hope this helps. reuel.

12-31-2002, 11:18 AM	#12
nijjhar Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reading, U.K. Posts: 20	Hi, As He did the Will of God and not his own will, His religion was Islam. Not the present Islam in which you do the wills of Mullahs, Fatwas, INSHMULLAHS but the Real one inwhich you submit yourself to the Will of Allah, called INSHALLAH.

12-31-2002, 11:24 AM	#13
Jayjay Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 6,261	At the moment, Judaism leads with a tight margin of 100%. This is exciting.

12-31-2002, 11:45 AM	#14
Tom Sawyer Talk Freethought Staff Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto, eh Posts: 42,293	According to Monty Python, the Wise Men said that Jesus was the King of the Jews, which would make him Jewish. If anyone knows of a more authorative historical source than a defunct British comedy troupe, I'd like to hear it

12-31-2002, 12:55 PM	#15
nijjhar Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reading, U.K. Posts: 20	Jesus belonged to the Royal Kingdom of God where the highest, Royal King serves people rather than Lord over them as the antichrist Popes do. Royal Kingdom is of the heart and not of the this secular world as Kings rule.

12-31-2002, 01:55 PM	#16
sakrilege Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Cleveland, OH, USA Folding@Home Godless Team Posts: 6,211	nijjhar, you remind me of Amos & Boro Nut rolled into one! And I put down that jesus was jewish.

12-31-2002, 02:08 PM	#17
nijjhar Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reading, U.K. Posts: 20	Hi, In Judaism, wife and children obey their head of family, the man and the man obeys his Rabbi. But in Jesus, both men and women are equal and they both do the Will of God and not of any man such as Pope, Mullahs, etc. So, the religion of Jesus was not Judaism but Islam.

12-31-2002, 03:42 PM	#19
nijjhar Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Reading, U.K. Posts: 20	Word of God is not learnt from Books but through common sense or holy spirit. So, learn things through common sense. How could you call a religion Islam when the Mullahs impose their views? INSHMULLAH IS NOT ISLAM

12-31-2002, 03:54 PM	#20
Eudaimonist Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Sundsvall, Sweden Posts: 3,159	Don't all of you know that Jesus is a clone of the Elohim? That makes him a Raelian. Or is that an Elohimian?

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