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Pirate Smoker · 01-31-2002, 10:56 AM

There is an ongoing debate at another message board I frequent, about whether OBEs are really out-of-body or just all in the head. Unfortunately, a lot of the people there are calling skepticism "just another religion" and we shouldn't trust science completely because "it can't explain everything".

I have had an OBE... I think. Happened in the middle of the night after waking up from a dream. It was damn cool, but I wouldn't call it anything other than a hallucination.

The thing that gets me is that I've heard of lab tests where they'd put a card with a number on it up on a shelf or something, and someone would astral project during the night and read it.

Can anyone offer an explanation?

Francois Tremblay · 01-31-2002, 11:01 AM

Do you perchance have any studies to show ? I never heard of any astral projection test being successful. I'd be interested in hearing what you found.

David Gould · 01-31-2002, 03:14 PM

The only ones I have heard of are where they put a card on top of a shelf and the OBEr fails to read it.

Certainly one in which they did read it would be interesting.

01-31-2002, 10:56 AM	#1
Pirate Smoker Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: TN Posts: 82	Astral projection. There is an ongoing debate at another message board I frequent, about whether OBEs are really out-of-body or just all in the head. Unfortunately, a lot of the people there are calling skepticism "just another religion" and we shouldn't trust science completely because "it can't explain everything". I have had an OBE... I think. Happened in the middle of the night after waking up from a dream. It was damn cool, but I wouldn't call it anything other than a hallucination. The thing that gets me is that I've heard of lab tests where they'd put a card with a number on it up on a shelf or something, and someone would astral project during the night and read it. Can anyone offer an explanation?

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01-31-2002, 11:01 AM	#2
Francois Tremblay Banned Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Montreal, QC Canada Posts: 876	Do you perchance have any studies to show ? I never heard of any astral projection test being successful. I'd be interested in hearing what you found.

01-31-2002, 03:14 PM	#3
David Gould Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 759	The only ones I have heard of are where they put a card on top of a shelf and the OBEr fails to read it. Certainly one in which they did read it would be interesting.

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