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Old 09-03-2002, 09:59 AM   #11
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<strong>20 For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
-Romans 1:18-20</strong>
The fool will post another stupid verse we've all heard a hundred times before thinking he's making a decent argument. The fool will not see that nature does not imply a creator. However even the fool can see that nature does not imply a particular creator, so even he is without excuse in posting such tripe.

Kiwi 1:18-20

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Mark, the Mormons and Muslims are trying to get our attention. There are one or two Jews and Hindus out there who are convinced they're right, too. Why should we pay any attention to you? Can you tell us why Brand X is better than Brand Y or Brand Z?

Do you believe everything the Bible says?

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Old 09-03-2002, 10:03 AM   #13
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Vibr8gKiwi,

I invite you to look at your automobile (or any other material thing you posses) today and meditate whether it is reasonable to suppose that it did not have a maker.
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Old 09-03-2002, 10:05 AM   #14
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<strong>I didn't post this verse to be original.</strong>
Ah, so were you just being insulting then? Trolling? Being an ass? Calling people names for no reason at all?
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Old 09-03-2002, 10:06 AM   #15
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MrDarwin,

I am not trying to get you to pay any attention to me, but to the words that i am merely quoting.
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Old 09-03-2002, 10:07 AM   #16
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<strong>I invite you to look at your automobile (or any other material thing you posses) today and meditate whether it is reasonable to suppose that it did not have a maker.</strong>
Non-living material things like cars are created. Living biological things reproduce themselves.

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Old 09-03-2002, 10:08 AM   #17
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<strong>MrDarwin,

I am not trying to get you to pay any attention to me, but to the words that i am merely quoting.</strong>
But you haven't given any reason why I should pay any attention to your words. Words are cheap. Care to put your money where your mouth is?

Stick around a while. You might actually learn a thing or two about what else the bible says.
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I invite you to look at your automobile (or any other material thing you posses) today and meditate whether it is reasonable to suppose that it did not have a maker.
I can prove the existence of my Toyota's maker.
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Old 09-03-2002, 10:11 AM   #19
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<strong>Vibr8gKiwi,

I invite you to look at your automobile (or any other material thing you posses) today and meditate whether it is reasonable to suppose that it did not have a maker.</strong>
My watch is imprinted with "Made in Japan". And I once worked in a factory where material things were constructed. What's your point?
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Non-living material things like cars are created. Living biological things reproduce themselves.
What about mountains? Did they reproduce too?

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Imagine seeing a material item whose maker cannot be determined from the markings on it. Would you doubt that it had a maker?
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