Mageth

I decided to research the topic of this thread, "Things the Bible gets Wrong."

So I got out my Bible and started at the beginning..."In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth..."

That chapter and the next couple were as far as I needed to go. What a joke! Six days of creation, plants before the sun (not to mention day and night before the sun!}, birds before land animals, women from ribs, talking serpents, forbidden fruit, god needing to rest, serpents eating dust...the list goes on and on. And did god make man before the animals or the animals before man?

What can you expect from a book that has such major errors in its introduction?

Vanderzyden

And here, as there, you have nothing substantial to contribute (except complaints). Now, you claim you have something more than "chestnuts".

Bring it on.

Vanderzyden

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Vanderzyden

And what shall we expect from a man who claims to have read it?

I will not soon forget "motes and logs", Mageth.

Vanderzyden

Mageth

Vanderzyden, you're so cute! And consistent...misdirection via ad hom rather than addressing the post.

I told you that I was reciting that the way I learned it as a wee lad (I spent 45 years in the Church "not reading" the bible), which was the way it "stuck." As it turns out...

From <a href="http://www.amazingbible.com/Documents/Chron_4_gospels/chronological_4_gospels_pt4.htm" target="_blank">here:</a>:

Lk 6:41. AND WHY (DO YOU LOOK AT) THE MOTE (or speck of sawdust, or splinter) THAT IS IN (YOUR) BROTHER'S EYE, BUT (PAY NO ATTENTION TO) (or do not notice) THE BEAM (or log) THAT IS IN (YOUR) OWN EYE?
Lk 6:42 (Part 1). EITHER HOW (CAN) (YOU) SAY TO (YOUR) BROTHER, BROTHER, LET ME PULL OUT THE MOTE (or speck, or splinter) THAT IS IN (YOUR) EYE, WHEN (YOU) (YOURSELF) (DO) NOT (see) THE BEAM (or log) THAT IS IN (YOUR) OWN EYE?

So apparently the author(s) of that site haven't read the Bible either!

And go to Google and search for "mote log eye bible" and you'll get lots of hits from others who have also obviously not read the bible!

(or maybe it's just you... )

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schalldampfer

Why? It won't change the good old hare's chewing cud/
It isn't narrow. And to call it "science" is degrading to people who actually study and observe the world around them. And why should we not? Maybe because...it shows that they are wrong?
Hares don't chew cud.
Which are often unfulfilled sas yet.
So, in other words, we aren't allowed to point out errors in the text.

And hares not chewing cud is pretty observable. Not too hard to look at and figure out.
If you are going to be a science critic, then you should understand what you are reading. The same pettiness shown in touting "contradictions" and "errors" is apparent in all of your posts.

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Mageth

I'd also note that the NAS you seem so fond of uses "log" for "beam".

So some bibles use "mote", some "speck", some "beam", some "log".

Jeremy Pallant

Vanderzyden implied that the Bible is without error. I pointed out some errors. That's hardly petty. I could have gone for the major errors, such as, as has been pointed out, the Creation story, but it's much easier too look at the simple things. Are bats birds? No. They may have thought that they were, but they were wrong. Hares do not chew the cud, there are no insects or birds with four legs. Simple errors, found in the Bible.

Jeremy Pallant

Alright. You explain how the Bible is correct when it says that hares chew the cud. Start with that one.

Jeremy Pallant

Am I to conclude, Vanderzyden, that you can't explain how the Bible is correct when it claims that hares chew the cud?

Radorth

IMO you are simply being legalistic, holding us to every jot and tittle, while ignoring the weightier matters- much like the worst religious people. The very fact that God used imperfect and illiterate people to write the world's all time bestseller is in itself proof, for greater minds than yours I'm sure.

Rad

"Wisdom is justified by her children," as always.