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Jewel · 07-12-2003, 11:37 AM

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WASHINGTON -- With such fellow believers as President Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft in office, religious conservatives have never had more friends in high places.

But a growing sense of frustration is enveloping the leadership of the political movement that began nearly 25 years ago when the Rev. Jerry Falwell's Moral Majority burst onto the national scene. A generation later, most Americans don't stand with the Christian Right. Its big agenda items have fizzled.

And as the impact of last month's sweeping Supreme Court ruling on gay rights sinks in, the movement is at a soul-searching crossroads.

fromtheright · 07-12-2003, 12:40 PM

I think they are in a strategy-seeking mood, not soul-searching.

SLD · 07-12-2003, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by fromtheright
I think they are in a strategy-seeking mood, not soul-searching.

I thought they were always "soul-searching".

SLD

Toto · 07-12-2003, 01:03 PM

I always thought they had no souls.

fromtheright · 07-13-2003, 06:42 AM

And I expected both answers.

My point being that they don't question whether those issues are important to them, but how they should act on them, or unfortunately if fact, whether they perceive enough public support for their efforts.

Leviathan · 07-15-2003, 03:14 PM

The article cites the recent overturning of a Texas law banning homosexual sodomy. This is another example, along with the affirmative action decisions, coupled with last years decisions on the death penalty, that go to show this Court might not be as "conservative" as we believe they are.

I'm honestly rather shocked at these decisions.

07-15-2003, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by Leviathan
The article cites the recent overturning of a Texas law banning homosexual sodomy.

I'm honestly rather shocked at these decisions.

So, you mean to tell us that you actually want the government to control what happens in the bedroom of two consenting adults?

Leviathan · 07-15-2003, 04:11 PM

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So, you mean to tell us that you actually want the government to control what happens in the bedroom of two consenting adults?

You didn't read *why* I said I was shocked at the decisions. Having studied the criticisms of this current Court being "right-wing," and having cited 4 recent decisions which in the last 2 years, that were *very* shocking, given the aforementioned criticism, I was saying I was shocked at the decisions, given the courts' makeup.

You read too much into what I was saying.

07-15-2003, 04:27 PM

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Originally posted by Leviathan
You read too much into what I was saying.

*nervous laughter* I, uh, tend to do that now and then. It's best to just ignore me.

Leviathan · 07-15-2003, 05:31 PM

No problem bud, errors in communication occur every now and then (all the time). Don't mention it, and you certainly shouldn't be ignored!

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Leviathan Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Georgia, United States of America Posts: 115	Heh No problem bud, errors in communication occur every now and then (all the time). Don't mention it, and you certainly shouldn't be ignored!

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07-12-2003, 12:40 PM	#2
fromtheright Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 633	I think they are in a strategy-seeking mood, not soul-searching.

07-12-2003, 01:03 PM	#4
Toto Contributor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 40,549	I always thought they had no souls.

07-13-2003, 06:42 AM	#5
fromtheright Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 633	And I expected both answers. My point being that they don't question whether those issues are important to them, but how they should act on them, or unfortunately if fact, whether they perceive enough public support for their efforts.

07-15-2003, 03:14 PM	#6
Leviathan Regular Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Georgia, United States of America Posts: 115	The article cites the recent overturning of a Texas law banning homosexual sodomy. This is another example, along with the affirmative action decisions, coupled with last years decisions on the death penalty, that go to show this Court might not be as "conservative" as we believe they are. I'm honestly rather shocked at these decisions.

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