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Old 06-17-2003, 06:49 AM   #1
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Default Can God cause me to Sin(in the eyes of humans) for the greater good?

God is allpowerfull, can God cause me to Sin?

If God makes me sin, who is to be blamed: God or me?

How can I know if God causes anyone to sin for the greater good that God has planned?


How can I say if anyone sins, if God can be the cause of their actions?






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God is allpowerfull, can God cause me to Sin?

If God makes me sin, who is to be blamed: God or me?

How can I know if God causes anyone to sin for the greater good that God has planned?

How can I say if anyone sins, if God can be the cause of their actions?

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God doesn't need to make you sin; you do it yourself. We all do. Sometimes we do it conciously. Other times it's a habit.

And there isn't any way to know. No one can understand or fathom God's plan; I don't suggest you waste your time trying. I mean, your lawn probably needs attention. If you are looking to say that someone sinned; you might as well stand up in public and yell at everyone. If you are looking to help that person, then talk with them 1-on-1 and explain where they've gone wrong, that you do the same thing, and you'll help them overcome their problem(s).

I hope that helps...
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How can I say if anyone sins, if God can be the cause of their actions?
The only one you can say anything of is yourself.

If someone acts out in a manner you consider sinful, try and realize why you feel that way. If it's still of concern, try and learn what the circumstances were. At most, you can say what you'd do in the same situation. It may not be the same as what another person did or does. But you cant judge if what you'd do or the other person did is any more wrong than the other.

The only one who can judge anyone is God.

Judge not lest ye be judged.

And who said there is such thing as Sin anyways?

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No one can understand or fathom God's plan; I don't suggest you waste your time trying.
I've wondered this for a while. Why do Christians always say that "God has a plan for you" and yet still claim they believe in Free Will? God can't have a plan for you AND give you free reign over your life at the same time.
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I've discussed this question with some of my friends who are believers. I would phrase it like this. I think that if you believe God is sovereign over the universe, then God is responsible for sin. For example, it may be someone's "free will choice" to fly an airplane into a skyscraper. But if God has allowed such actions to occur, then is he not, at some level, also responsible? And that's even more true if he is all-knowing and all-powerful. Put another way, suppose I had foreknowledge that someone was going to detonate a truck bomb in front of a building, and I had the power to stop it. Yet I did nothing. By any concept of justice, I am just as responsible and complicit in the crime. Silence implies assent. Now of course, the believer will say that God is perfectly just, and has a reason for allowing tragedy and evil to occur, but you will note that this argument does not deny God's ultimate responsibility, it only tries to justify it.
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