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Darth Dane · 05-09-2003, 03:51 PM

"The kingdom of heaven is spread upon earth but people do not see it"

How would you interpret this Hezekiah Jones?

Umm. So does that mean an atheist (or other non-xian) can get into heaven if they are a good person?

Yes I can't make sense of it otherwise, check out this one:

http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...threadid=50675

DD - Love Spliff

hezekiah jones · 05-10-2003, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Darth Dane
"The kingdom of heaven is spread upon earth but people do not see it"

How would you interpret this Hezekiah Jones?

Typical gibberish from god botherers unwittingly parading their arrogance in front of non-believers.

Darth Dane · 05-10-2003, 04:33 PM

Typical gibberish from god botherers unwittingly parading their arrogance in front of non-believers

Is the saying gibberish or the fact that I am asking you to interpret it gibberish?

I od not claim to know if my interpretation is teh correct one, where am I arrogant, if it is me you refer to?

DD - Love Spliff

hezekiah jones · 05-12-2003, 08:07 AM

Originally posted by Darth Dane
Is the saying gibberish or the fact that I am asking you to interpret it gibberish?

The saying. It sounds like one of those "fuck yous" that comes at the end of a discussion between a theist and an atheist. Inevitably the theist (especially those inclined to fundianity) will say something like, "Well, if you weren't so blind or ignorant or bitter you would see these things just like I do and you would accept Jesus into your heart and the guidance of the Holy Spirit and you'd come to the peace you're obviously so sorely missing in your life, the peace that surpasses all understanding and be saved by the blood of the blah blah blah blah blah."

It's the height (or depth) of arrogance, if you ask me.

Darth Dane · 05-12-2003, 01:32 PM

So you do not find ANY meaning in the mentioned verse?

If you do, what is it? Why is it included into the bible?
Surely there was a reason?

I hope I am not perceived as a fundy, as I do not profess definate knowledge as such.

you'd come to the peace you're obviously so sorely missing in your life, the peace that surpasses all understanding and be saved by the blood of the blah blah blah blah blah."

LOL :notworthy I don't really know if you lack peace in your life, but hey who am I to say if peace is found at the bottom of a dressing bottle

Oh and you called me a preterist, what is that? And do you still regard me as one?

Cheers

DD - Love Spliff

hezekiah jones · 05-12-2003, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Darth Dane
So you do not find ANY meaning in the mentioned verse?

Maybe some pointless metaphysical tautology equating consciousness and the "kingdom of heaven." Other than that, no.

Originally posted by Darth Dane
Oh and you called me a preterist, what is that? And do you still regard me as one?

I said you were the posterboy for pretermen. Know what I mean, jelly bean?

I wouldn't know a "preterist" if it smacked me with a wet mackeral.

So can Jesus kick you out of heaven or wot?

Darth Dane · 05-12-2003, 04:38 PM

So can Jesus kick you out of heaven or wot?

Only answer with any degree of truth:

Everything is possible!

DD - Love Spliff

Paperstreet · 05-13-2003, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Darth Dane
So can Jesus kick you out of heaven or wot?
Only answer with any degree of truth:
Everything is possible!

Case closed.

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05-09-2003, 03:51 PM	#91
Darth Dane Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Required Posts: 2,349	"The kingdom of heaven is spread upon earth but people do not see it" How would you interpret this Hezekiah Jones? Umm. So does that mean an atheist (or other non-xian) can get into heaven if they are a good person? Yes I can't make sense of it otherwise, check out this one: http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.p...threadid=50675 DD - Love Spliff

05-10-2003, 10:45 AM	#92
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	Originally posted by Darth Dane "The kingdom of heaven is spread upon earth but people do not see it" How would you interpret this Hezekiah Jones? Typical gibberish from god botherers unwittingly parading their arrogance in front of non-believers.

05-10-2003, 04:33 PM	#93
Darth Dane Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Required Posts: 2,349	Typical gibberish from god botherers unwittingly parading their arrogance in front of non-believers Is the saying gibberish or the fact that I am asking you to interpret it gibberish? I od not claim to know if my interpretation is teh correct one, where am I arrogant, if it is me you refer to? DD - Love Spliff

05-12-2003, 08:07 AM	#94
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	Originally posted by Darth Dane Is the saying gibberish or the fact that I am asking you to interpret it gibberish? The saying. It sounds like one of those "fuck yous" that comes at the end of a discussion between a theist and an atheist. Inevitably the theist (especially those inclined to fundianity) will say something like, "Well, if you weren't so blind or ignorant or bitter you would see these things just like I do and you would accept Jesus into your heart and the guidance of the Holy Spirit and you'd come to the peace you're obviously so sorely missing in your life, the peace that surpasses all understanding and be saved by the blood of the blah blah blah blah blah." It's the height (or depth) of arrogance, if you ask me.

05-12-2003, 01:32 PM	#95
Darth Dane Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Required Posts: 2,349	So you do not find ANY meaning in the mentioned verse? If you do, what is it? Why is it included into the bible? Surely there was a reason? I hope I am not perceived as a fundy, as I do not profess definate knowledge as such. you'd come to the peace you're obviously so sorely missing in your life, the peace that surpasses all understanding and be saved by the blood of the blah blah blah blah blah." LOL :notworthy I don't really know if you lack peace in your life, but hey who am I to say if peace is found at the bottom of a dressing bottle Oh and you called me a preterist, what is that? And do you still regard me as one? Cheers DD - Love Spliff

05-12-2003, 04:20 PM	#96
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	Originally posted by Darth Dane So you do not find ANY meaning in the mentioned verse? Maybe some pointless metaphysical tautology equating consciousness and the "kingdom of heaven." Other than that, no. Originally posted by Darth Dane Oh and you called me a preterist, what is that? And do you still regard me as one? I said you were the posterboy for pretermen. Know what I mean, jelly bean? I wouldn't know a "preterist" if it smacked me with a wet mackeral. So can Jesus kick you out of heaven or wot?

05-12-2003, 04:38 PM	#97
Darth Dane Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Required Posts: 2,349	So can Jesus kick you out of heaven or wot? Only answer with any degree of truth: Everything is possible! DD - Love Spliff

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