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lpetrich · 09-01-2002, 06:37 AM

Everybody's favorite creationist wildlife biologist, His Eddianness, has offered this metholdology for di\stinguishing history from myth:

Quote:

Ed:
(the Gospels)
Any literary scholar that knows and appreciates myths can verify this. There are no overblown, spectacular, childishly exaggerated events. Nothing is arbitrary. Everything fits in. Everything is meaningful. Psychological depth is at a maximum, in myths it is at a minimum. Myths are verbose, the Gospels are laconic.

LP: I wonder if Ed really reads the Bible, because the Gospels have lots of counterevidence, like:

* Cursing a certain fig tree
* Driving demons into pigs, when then stampede into a lake
* Walking on water
* Turning water into wine
* Multiplying bread and fish
* Magical cures
* Unusual darkness when JC was executed
* Dead people on the move when JC was resurrected

I'm sure that if Ed saw similar stories about anyone else, he'd consider them pure fiction.
Ed:
No, because no similar stories have the above additional characteristics. Just having supernatural events does not automatically make it a myth.

I consider this odd, because the Gospels contain several "overblown, spectacular, childishly exaggerated events".

offa · 09-01-2002, 04:34 PM

offa;
If you read Thiering she has an explanation for these fantasies. For instance, the FIGTREE was Herod Antipas and Jesus cut off financial support to him thus withering his fruit. The demon leading the PIGS was Theudas, who, BTW, was the zealot leader released by Pilate during the crucifixion in AD 33.
Walking on water was what Jesus appeared to do when walking out on a low pier meeting boat load's of converts (fishes) as they watched him approach.

Gentiles were also known as "Water" and converting these "fishes" was done by Jewish priest known as "Wine". Jesus taught that these converted "Water" could, in turn, convert "fishes", and, thus, he turned "Water" into "Wine". The Jews were offended because they lost tithes.
Feeding the "Multitude" was just feeding their leader(s) who represented the 5,000.
When Jesus made the lame man walk he actually ordered an opposing priest to get off his palaquin (while he was accepting tithes in a reclined position) and walk away "before he got hurt".
The extra hours of darkness as an adjustment to their clock a.k.a. Daylight Savings Time.
Those "dead men" are figures of Speech.

One thing about Thiering, she says "Jesus feet were not pierced" and she is right, so do not tell me she is not more scholary than your consorts!

Thanks,
Offa

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offa Regular Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Monroeville, Ohio, USA Posts: 440	offa; If you read Thiering she has an explanation for these fantasies. For instance, the FIGTREE was Herod Antipas and Jesus cut off financial support to him thus withering his fruit. The demon leading the PIGS was Theudas, who, BTW, was the zealot leader released by Pilate during the crucifixion in AD 33. Walking on water was what Jesus appeared to do when walking out on a low pier meeting boat load's of converts (fishes) as they watched him approach. Gentiles were also known as "Water" and converting these "fishes" was done by Jewish priest known as "Wine". Jesus taught that these converted "Water" could, in turn, convert "fishes", and, thus, he turned "Water" into "Wine". The Jews were offended because they lost tithes. Feeding the "Multitude" was just feeding their leader(s) who represented the 5,000. When Jesus made the lame man walk he actually ordered an opposing priest to get off his palaquin (while he was accepting tithes in a reclined position) and walk away "before he got hurt". The extra hours of darkness as an adjustment to their clock a.k.a. Daylight Savings Time. Those "dead men" are figures of Speech. One thing about Thiering, she says "Jesus feet were not pierced" and she is right, so do not tell me she is not more scholary than your consorts! Thanks, Offa

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