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Old 10-22-2002, 08:18 AM   #41
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<strong>As far as I know hares do not chew the cud. Rabbits do, hares don't.

I've heard somewhere that the hebrew word translated to "hare" in the OT means hyrax. Does anyone know if this is true?

Hyraxes also doesn't chew the cud.</strong>
Both hares and rabbits practice refection. Neither one chews the cud. It's also been referred to as autocoprophagy.
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<strong>Indeed. Let us not forget satyrs also. (Isaiah 34:13)</strong>
Not the best choice of words to describe Isaiah. Spoofs is more accurate.

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Old 10-22-2002, 10:19 AM   #43
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Not the best choice of words to describe Isaiah. Spoofs is more accurate.

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Don't do that to me! I nearly snorted tea onto my keyboard!
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Both hares and rabbits practice refection. Neither one chews the cud. It's also been referred to as autocoprophagy.</strong>
You assume that a bunch of nomads wandering through the desert after leaving Egypt had the technical terms in their vocabulary to describe what rabbits do as autocoprophagy.

Chewing their cud very well may have been exactly what their culture called such action, unless you can demonstrate they had language for what rabbits do that differs ...
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And they probably also didn't have words for celestial mechanics, abiogenesis, and evolution and so they substituted their words for god and creation.

I think this is what we've been stating all along. These nomads were scientific illiterates. They described things the best they could with their limited background. This is exactly how every other ancient myth came about.
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And they probably also didn't have words for celestial mechanics, abiogenesis, and evolution and so they substituted their words for god and creation.</strong>
Doesn't hold since the Genesis account is written in a specific story while filled with symbolism, whearas the law regarding rabbits is a code of law, not a symbolic story.

You want to judge Shakespear and your History 101 textbook by the same standards when they are clearly different types of literature.
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You assume that a bunch of nomads wandering through the desert after leaving Egypt had the technical terms in their vocabulary to describe what rabbits do as autocoprophagy.

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No, I don't. I assume that they didn't have such terms, and wrote down what they saw...and they were wrong in their description. That's the whole point. This thread was started by the claim that the allegedly divinely-inspired Bible was without error. The writers' error may have accurately reflected what they believed about hares, but they were wrong.

Now if someone wants to claim that instead of the Bible being without error, that it accurately records errors, go right ahead.
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Doesn't hold since the Genesis account is written in a specific story while filled with symbolism, whearas the law regarding rabbits is a code of law, not a symbolic story.
I mistakenly assumed that since you were defending the accuracy of the Bible, you were a literalist and thought that the creation story was more than a symbolic creation myth. I apologize for misrepresenting your position.
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....These nomads were scientific illiterates. They described things the best they could with their limited background. This is exactly how every other ancient myth came about.</strong>
What is the aim of (inaccurately) ascribing the term "nomads" to all of the ancient Jewish people? Surely it is to discredit the Bible. There is no clearer indication of presuppositional erroneous bias than this, K.

"Nomad" is equivalent to "redneck" in your mind, I'm sure. You, like others here, think you are somehow more "sophisticated" than the writers of the Pentateuch, the Psalms, or the Proverbs. However, the content of your posts is strong evidence to the contrary.

Another erroneous charge is that the ancient Hebrews were all flat-earthers. This is clearly false, when we consider such passages as this:

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It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers,
Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain
And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

Here we see clear references to a spherical earth and an expanding universe, both of which have only been positively demonstrated in the past 600 years.

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It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,
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