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liquid · 02-08-2002, 05:31 AM

This is a fascinating thread! What happens if Hovind loses the building case? Does it get pulled down? Does he get fined?

On a side note, how much of a fine or loss would be needed in order to financially wreck his organisation?

Oolon Colluphid · 02-08-2002, 06:05 AM

BTW Philosoft, thanks for looking into it for us

Oolon

Philosoft · 02-08-2002, 07:10 AM

Well, this case is apparently completely unprecedented in the county, so any suggested punitive action would be mostly speculation. I suspect the best case scenario for Hovind is that he pays a fine, he is forced to let the building inspectors check it out, he makes the necessary changes to his structure and he receives a permit. If he refuses to do any of the above I don't see how he avoids jail. I have no idea what would happen to the structure.

Anyway, none of this is particularly revealing information and there wasn't much work involved but I will certainly be paying attention to what happens and I will pass on anything I learn. Anything for the 'cause' I say.

butswana · 02-08-2002, 08:04 AM

I just hope he manages to stay out of jail until after he comes here(Sept28-30).

Corwin · 02-08-2002, 08:07 AM

Kent Hovind is a nut, a right-wing wacko, an NWO type conspriacy theorist.... (he has some wonderfully entertainingly snide things to say about both the United Nations and the Freemasons...) a fraud, and a general fruit loop.

But he's DAMNED amusing.

Valentine Pontifex · 02-08-2002, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Philosoft:
If he refuses to do any of the above I don't see how he avoids jail.

I have no problem with this. I do have a "law and order" streak in me and if the guy does not want to obey the law than that, to me, that is why jail invented.

Does your state have any provisions that would require "Dr." Dino to pay for his stay in jail?

In any even, every buck that idiot spends on a brain dead legal case is just one more buck that will not be used to spread his poison. This really is a win-win situation.

tgamble · 02-08-2002, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LordValentine:


I have no problem with this. I do have a "law and order" streak in me and if the guy does not want to obey the law than that, to me, that is why jail invented.

If not jail, how about being committed? Declared insane and and treated. That would be nice.

bozman007 · 02-10-2002, 01:24 AM

Hey! I am a newbie here, and maybe it is just the vodka talking, but I have to say; you people have hit the nail on the head with every point you have made! I am an anthropology student at CSU Chico and I have come across Hovind's name time and time again in the creationist literature. It is nice to see a rational bunch, such as yourselves, criticize Hovind for what he really is, a freggin' nut. Keep up the good work people!

Maybe I will have something more important to say when I sober up. Until then...

Cheers,
Andy

Titanpoint · 02-10-2002, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Henrietta:
How many centuries is it going to take before we eliminate this sort of ignorance?

At least another 20

tgamble · 03-01-2002, 01:41 PM

I just got an email from these idiots that's basicaly the same as the link. apparently the issue isn't settled yet.

Maybe the county could say either pay or have your museum shut down.

Hopefully he'll go for the latter option.

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02-08-2002, 05:31 AM	#51
liquid Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,440	This is a fascinating thread! What happens if Hovind loses the building case? Does it get pulled down? Does he get fined? On a side note, how much of a fine or loss would be needed in order to financially wreck his organisation?

02-08-2002, 06:05 AM	#52
Oolon Colluphid Contributor Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Alibi: ego ipse hinc extermino Posts: 12,591	BTW Philosoft, thanks for looking into it for us Oolon

02-08-2002, 07:10 AM	#53
Philosoft Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast of disorder Posts: 6,829	Well, this case is apparently completely unprecedented in the county, so any suggested punitive action would be mostly speculation. I suspect the best case scenario for Hovind is that he pays a fine, he is forced to let the building inspectors check it out, he makes the necessary changes to his structure and he receives a permit. If he refuses to do any of the above I don't see how he avoids jail. I have no idea what would happen to the structure. Anyway, none of this is particularly revealing information and there wasn't much work involved but I will certainly be paying attention to what happens and I will pass on anything I learn. Anything for the 'cause' I say.

02-08-2002, 08:04 AM	#54
butswana Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,804	I just hope he manages to stay out of jail until after he comes here(Sept28-30).

02-08-2002, 08:07 AM	#55
Corwin Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 4,369	Kent Hovind is a nut, a right-wing wacko, an NWO type conspriacy theorist.... (he has some wonderfully entertainingly snide things to say about both the United Nations and the Freemasons...) a fraud, and a general fruit loop. But he's DAMNED amusing.

02-10-2002, 01:24 AM	#58
bozman007 New Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2	Hey! I am a newbie here, and maybe it is just the vodka talking, but I have to say; you people have hit the nail on the head with every point you have made! I am an anthropology student at CSU Chico and I have come across Hovind's name time and time again in the creationist literature. It is nice to see a rational bunch, such as yourselves, criticize Hovind for what he really is, a freggin' nut. Keep up the good work people! Maybe I will have something more important to say when I sober up. Until then... Cheers, Andy

03-01-2002, 01:41 PM	#60
tgamble Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: St. John's, Nfld. Canada Posts: 1,652	I just got an email from these idiots that's basicaly the same as the link. apparently the issue isn't settled yet. Maybe the county could say either pay or have your museum shut down. Hopefully he'll go for the latter option.

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