Jimmy Higgins

The Flood creates the entire sedimentary rock column around the great lakes, yet it neglects to fill in the great lakes.

This seems to be an issue.

Godless Dave

They have an answer to everything. Just don't expect it to make sense.

Vesica

I don't understand the background of this question...more detail please!

Jimmy Higgins

I was looking at my satelite picture of Georgian Bay on my office wall. That thing is deep, main reason why it remains so cold. Too much water to heat up. That is also where the Niagara Escarpment dives under the water. Its surface is virtually all igniatic rock. You'd think something like this large tub of water would be a great thing for sediment to dump into during the "Great" Flood.

Then I thought about Lake Erie. There is a lot of sedimentary rock, mainly shale, as you get to Cleveland and the area. This shale was supposedly formed during the great flood. How could shale form there, but not also be in the lake?

Mageth

It's quite simple, really, according to the ICR. The Great Lakes are artifacts of the Ice Age. <a href="http://www.icr.org/pubs/imp/imp-168.htm" target="_blank">The Ice Age was post-Flood.</a>

Personally, I feel sorry for those guys. It must be terribly painful for them to pull this stuff out of their ass.

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Jimmy Higgins

The effort they put into this stuff could be so much more well placed.

But how the heck do they explain the coral then that's atop the Niagara Escarpment? When exactly did it form if the Limestone was formed during the flood?

Besides, the bible says there was a great flood. The bible then arguably says the world split apart. Where in the heck does it say in the bible that there was an ice age? Furthermore, after the flood, there is no longer a C-12 to C-14 ratio dilemma for us. So any dating after the flood should be accurate. Furthermore, there are no records of an ice shelf in New England or Northern Canada then. No stories or mythology for it. And their ice age thing only seems to apply to New England, somehow. That was a very tough piece of garbage to read.

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Bubba

One really wierd article that I ead suggested that about 1000 years ago thw whole region was underwater and drained. The writer claimed that Vikings had sailed directly across the Atlantic and into Wisconsin and Minnesota. Hence the name, Minnesota Vikings. The writer claimed (but did not produce) evidence in the form of Viking mooring posts and wrecked ships. If anyone has ever heard this YEC arguement before, let me know...

The human capacity for self delusion continues...

Bubba

caritas

Bubba,
Sounds like your "really weird article" might be a spoof. I know that the YEC articles are so weird they are hard to separate from the really weird spoofs of them. Still, it is important to try. If you have a URL for that article I would be interested in reading the paper.

Robert
Ubi caritas et amor, Ubi caritas, Deus ibi est

mibby529

Creationists can't explain the Americas period. Vine Deloria Jr wrote about the inability of Xians to explain anything outside of Asia Minor (Simple logic: The Bible was written in Asia Minor.) in God is Red and Red Earth, White Lies, among other books.

Deloria himself is Dakota, and traditional L/D/Nakota beliefs actually include several interesting beliefs in the creation/evolution debate:

• Man is descended from animals.
• The Earth is round, and orbits the sun.
• Any deity who does exist doens't manifest himself/herself/itself regularly.

About the only thing Indians seem to disagree with is that Indians came from somewhere else. And since the oldest reference I can find is a literary society, I must seriously doubt its veracity.

Kosh

Godidit. What more do you want?