Jesse

The dates were as follows:
#1: Oct. 26, 1978
#2: March 5, 1977
#3: July 19, 1979
#4: Jan. 8, 1976

So, your real profile was #3...this was the one that your friend Bag of Ass rated most highly, but it was also the one your wife rated lowest, and on your self-rating it tied for second place with 1/10.

Bag of Ass

This revelation tells us several things. First, the horoscope is clearly quite accurate and should be applied to everyone in the world, but on an individual basis lest we apply generalizations to individual people which is a Bad ThingTM. Second, I obviously know Lobstrosity better than he and his wife know him. Let this be a lesson to you all: horoscopes are infallible and Bag of Ass knows all.

echidna

Presumably that's why you didn't make the mistake of marrying him.

Lobstrosity

In general I agree with Bag's assessments of me, however there were a few things on his list for this one that I wouldn't count. The first would be that I strive for pleasure and avoid pain. I don't really put any special attention towards these two things that goes beyond what any other human on Earth would do to achieve pleasure and avoid pain. To me this was a completely neutral point. Similarly, a hate of deceipt and double-talk I rate as completely neutral as it applies to everyone. The "profound" mentioned specifically in this profile is not the profound I typically favor (I like science, not philosophy, religion, or law).

One of those birthdays was my wife's (although I got the time wrong by about twelve hours) and she managed to guess hers correctly by one point (she rated #3 as 6/10 for herself and #1 as 7/10 for herself). I think I would have put her as #3, though.

Lobstrosity

Allow me to steal a smilie from elsewhere to more accurately reflect my emotion:

Bag of Ass

Well, those things don't universally apply to everyone. Some people welcome pain, or at least don't try to avoid it at all costs. Many things include pain as a necessary part of achievement, and I figured you for one of those people who would rather shy away from that type of thing. Also, not everyone has a hate for deceipt and double-talk. Lots of people are liars, many of whom I suspect might even have a distrust of people who never lie. Also, you do seem to like thinking about many of the profound things mentioned in the text of the horoscope. You like science, yes, but you also participate in philosophy and religion message boards, which is more than most people do. You show an interest in understanding the different points of view, though you may not share them all. You also seem to have a keener interest in law than most people I know, or rather a keener interest in it than I do. Hell, you watch Law & Order, for chrissakes!

Lobstrosity

Yeah, well the following clearly do not apply:

"In any case your life will be colored by impulsive and rather stubborn tendencies on your part, creating some inclination to go to extremes"

"and makes you somewhat extroverted, demonstrative and passionate, falling in love frequently and without reservations."

"You want to be loved, and you constantly dwell on this fact. You hate being alone, so any professional interest should involve personal contact with the public."

"*** shows that you attract people who threaten you. You do not really have that much self-confidence; your aggressive actions are an attempt to convince yourself that you do."

"Your inner self seems attracted to unusual matters related to the termination of life-death and its mysteries."


How can it say such things and still purport to apply to me? I think I was rating them more along the lines of the overall impression I got. If a profile said something blatantly false it lost major points and had to work hard to convince me it could possibly apply to me. #3 just didn't put in the effort, the lazy bastard.

Bag of Ass

Sure, there are things about Profile 3 that don't apply to you. I considered all of them and addressed most of them before coming up with the score. It sounds like what you were looking for was a binary description of you, either 1 or 0, all or nothing. There were many things about it that I thought applied to you. I didn't rate based on the profile as a whole, nor did I rate each paragraph as a single unit. I looked at each phrase or clause and how it related to its sentence and rated those. I found that generally a paragraph had sentences that had no relationship with the rest of the paragraph, so that's why I chose to do it the way I did it. That said, I didn't just take a single non-Lobstrosity description from a paragraph and discount the entire paragraph. Nay, for that is folly!

Volker.Doormann

To give an example and to show a few intention and for any comparisons I have prepared a profile for #3 with my German software and translated with a CPU Translater readable on doormann.org/no3.htm. I will delete it after 48 hours then.

Volker

Jesse

So you have computer programs both for drawing up the chart and for doing automatic translation, and you're willing to do a profile for a date without seeing a birth certificate? In that case it would be quite easy for you to come up with charts for three or four different dates--again, even if you don't see the value or expect people to be dishonest in their self-evaluations, would you please oblige this request in the spirit of friendly discussion, since it would apparently involve virtually no effort on your part to do so?