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Jewel · 07-08-2003, 05:10 AM

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President Bush's road map to peace in the Middle East, which is gaining cooperation from the Palestinians and Israelis, is drawing fire from groups that have been his traditional allies: fundamentalist Christians.

Bush's plan has sparked a Christian Zionist movement among those who say the plan for Israel to give some of its land to the Palestinians goes against God's plan outlined in the Old Testament.

"I don't think that land for peace is a strategy that's going to work," said Tony Beam, pastor of Pleasant Grove Baptist Church in Fountain Inn and host of a morning talk show on Christian AM radio station WLFJ. "I don't think it's going to work politically and I don't think it'll work theologically."

The argument, which puts fundamentalist Christians in the same camp with conservative Jews whom they consider unbelievers, is based on a modern-day application of biblical passages in which God promises the land to the Hebrew patriarchs and their descendants.

"According to Scripture all the land belongs to Israel," said the Rev. Randall Atkins, pastor of Southside Assembly of God in Greenville. "They may give land up now to try to get peace in that area, but according to Scripture when the Lord returns he's going to give his people their land."

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SLD · 07-12-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by Jewel

"I don't think it's going to work politically and I don't think it'll work theologically."

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Well, duh. It won't work "theologically". Theo and Logically just don't belong in the same word. Nothing works theologically.

SLD

Kevbo · 07-12-2003, 01:34 PM

That's pretty sad, they've all been waiting to get whisked up to heaven for 2000 years now. Of course, not before the massive earthquakes and the deaths of billions of infidels, first.

If Bush's plan does anything to encourage peace, I'm all for it.

JonathanChance · 07-13-2003, 10:59 PM

I recall reading one of my old MAD Magazine Super Specials that had a bit in it from the 1980s called The Guide to the Moral Moronity. In it, they state that the reason that they supported Isreal so much is so that they could have a place to ship off all of the Jews in America to when they took over. Maybe that's not so far off from the truth, after all.

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07-12-2003, 01:34 PM	#3
Kevbo Regular Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Posts: 212	That's pretty sad, they've all been waiting to get whisked up to heaven for 2000 years now. Of course, not before the massive earthquakes and the deaths of billions of infidels, first. If Bush's plan does anything to encourage peace, I'm all for it.

07-13-2003, 10:59 PM	#4
JonathanChance Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Stevens Point, WI Posts: 538	I recall reading one of my old MAD Magazine Super Specials that had a bit in it from the 1980s called The Guide to the Moral Moronity. In it, they state that the reason that they supported Isreal so much is so that they could have a place to ship off all of the Jews in America to when they took over. Maybe that's not so far off from the truth, after all.

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