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rubbercok3000 · 03-13-2003, 04:08 PM

In the Holy Bible and in my own personal experiences with psychadelics I have come to the conclusion that God = Satan. It seems very evident in many OT verses as well as many other religons such as Hinduism. The God part being the order of reality while the Satan part being the chaos we see. What are thoughts on this???

-RRH- · 03-13-2003, 06:16 PM

Well, one thing they share in common is that they both don't exist.

If you want me to say more, you're going to have to start making sense.

Philosoft · 03-13-2003, 06:36 PM

Give me some of your drugs and I'll consider it.

Darth Dane · 03-14-2003, 01:45 AM

I agree.
They are the same.....essentially.

But satan could also represent a state of mind, rather than a personified evil outside yourself. Since you can have God conciousness, you should be able to get anti-god conciousness.

DD - Love

Rousseau_CHN · 03-14-2003, 02:57 AM

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The God part being the order of reality while the Satan part being the chaos we see.

sounds very much like Yin Yang.

Darth Dane · 03-14-2003, 03:31 AM

it is Yin/Yang!

DD - Love

Loki · 03-14-2003, 05:48 AM

Satan's gotten a bad rap; imo, he/she/it's not so much evil personified as a trickster that sets things in motion and causes change. He/she/it's the dynamic force of life, metaphorically speaking.

I think I'm a mystic atheist.

VonEvilstein · 03-14-2003, 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by Loki
Satan's gotten a bad rap; imo, he/she/it's not so much evil personified as a trickster that sets things in motion and causes change. He/she/it's the dynamic force of life, metaphorically speaking.

I think I'm a mystic atheist.

As I was reading this, I was thinking "Hmmmm, so kind of like Loki in the Norse mythology..."

...then I saw who the poster was.

Loki · 03-14-2003, 07:13 AM

:-D Usually I refrain from using emoticons, but it's just so appropriate here. Prometheus brought fire to the mortals and got in trouble with the Gods for doing so. Lucifer (light-bearer) brought dynamic life to the mortals and got in (more) trouble with the God(s).

It only works for me because I don't believe in either one, I suppose.

gravitybow · 03-14-2003, 07:24 AM

2 Samuel 24:1-2
1: Again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, "Go, number Israel and Judah."
2: So the king said to Jo'ab and the commanders of the army, who were with him, "Go through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan to Beer-sheba, and number the people, that I may know the number of the people."

1 Chronicles 21:1-2
1: Satan stood up against Israel, and incited David to number Israel.
2: So David said to Jo'ab and the commanders of the army, "Go, number Israel, from Beer-sheba to Dan, and bring me a report, that I may know their number."

Hmmm.....

03-13-2003, 04:08 PM	#1
rubbercok3000 Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nebraska Posts: 119	God = Satan In the Holy Bible and in my own personal experiences with psychadelics I have come to the conclusion that God = Satan. It seems very evident in many OT verses as well as many other religons such as Hinduism. The God part being the order of reality while the Satan part being the chaos we see. What are thoughts on this???

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-RRH- Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,047	common ground Well, one thing they share in common is that they both don't exist. If you want me to say more, you're going to have to start making sense.

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03-13-2003, 06:36 PM	#3
Philosoft Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast of disorder Posts: 6,829	Give me some of your drugs and I'll consider it.

03-14-2003, 01:45 AM	#4
Darth Dane Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Required Posts: 2,349	I agree. They are the same.....essentially. But satan could also represent a state of mind, rather than a personified evil outside yourself. Since you can have God conciousness, you should be able to get anti-god conciousness. DD - Love

03-14-2003, 03:31 AM	#6
Darth Dane Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Required Posts: 2,349	it is Yin/Yang! DD - Love

03-14-2003, 05:48 AM	#7
Loki Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Land of hippies and fog Posts: 2,075	Satan's gotten a bad rap; imo, he/she/it's not so much evil personified as a trickster that sets things in motion and causes change. He/she/it's the dynamic force of life, metaphorically speaking. I think I'm a mystic atheist.

03-14-2003, 07:13 AM	#9
Loki Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Land of hippies and fog Posts: 2,075	:-D Usually I refrain from using emoticons, but it's just so appropriate here. Prometheus brought fire to the mortals and got in trouble with the Gods for doing so. Lucifer (light-bearer) brought dynamic life to the mortals and got in (more) trouble with the God(s). It only works for me because I don't believe in either one, I suppose.

03-14-2003, 07:24 AM	#10
gravitybow Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Washington, NC Posts: 1,696	2 Samuel 24:1-2 1: Again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, "Go, number Israel and Judah." 2: So the king said to Jo'ab and the commanders of the army, who were with him, "Go through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan to Beer-sheba, and number the people, that I may know the number of the people." 1 Chronicles 21:1-2 1: Satan stood up against Israel, and incited David to number Israel. 2: So David said to Jo'ab and the commanders of the army, "Go, number Israel, from Beer-sheba to Dan, and bring me a report, that I may know their number." Hmmm.....

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