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NumberTenOx · 06-29-2002, 10:29 PM

Seen on King-5 TV tonight. Doug Bettarel, the owner of Better-All Auto in Yakima, WA - upset by the "Under God" ruling - will charge atheists an extra $10,000 for a used automobile. He says he won't ask, but if they volunteer the information, they get the extra charge. He said "if you're an atheist, I don't want to do business with you". (I'll post a link to an article as soon as I can find one).

Another fine example of "freedom of religion" brought to you by the people of Washington State.

[ June 29, 2002: Message edited by: NumberTenOx ]

Autonemesis · 06-29-2002, 10:34 PM

WWJD? Buy or lease?

Seth K · 06-29-2002, 10:51 PM

Don't you guys have civil rights laws up there? If they are anything like ours in CA, what he's doing would be illegal. I suggest if that's the case you WA atheists should all go to him for your next auto purchase and sue his fanny off.

Philosoft · 06-29-2002, 10:55 PM

Depends. I believe the federal civil rights acts don't include religion as a protected class. Of course, the states are free to protect any other classes they see fit. Any Washington residents know if their state constitution/statues/case law include religion as a protected class?

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Duh. I should look before I speak. From the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964:

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SEC. 202. All persons shall be entitled to be free, at any establishment or place, from discrimination or segregation of any kind on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin, if such discrimination or segregation is or purports to be required by any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, rule, or order of a State or any agency or political subdivision thereof.

Sue away.

[ June 30, 2002: Message edited by: Philosoft ]

HumanisTim · 06-30-2002, 12:13 AM

Does he only sell used cars? or is he officially affiliated with a major car maker?. If hes affiliated with someone like Ford. I say lets mail them.

NumberTenOx · 06-30-2002, 04:47 PM

Here is the story reported by <a href="http://www.kapptv.com/index.php?section_id=668&xstate=view_story&story_i d=113684" target="_blank">KAPP TV - Yakima, WA</a>.

I don't think he is affiliated with a car company.

Hedwig · 06-30-2002, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by NumberTenOx:
Seen on King-5 TV tonight. Doug Bettarel, the owner of Better-All Auto in Yakima, WA - upset by the "Under God" ruling - will charge atheists an extra $10,000 for a used automobile. He says he won't ask, but if they volunteer the information, they get the extra charge. He said "if you're an atheist, I don't want to do business with you". (I'll post a link to an article as soon as I can find one).

Another fine example of "freedom of religion" brought to you by the people of Washington State.

[ June 29, 2002: Message edited by: NumberTenOx ]

Funny, I don't remember discussing religion with my last car dealer.

NumberTenOx · 06-30-2002, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by Hedwig:
Funny, I don't remember discussing religion with my last car dealer.

Yes, OK, right. But - as has been said a million times in this forum - replace "Atheist" with "Jew". How does "If you're a Jew ... I'm gonna' charge you ten more grand for a car" sound to you? You want to live around here?

P.S. My mother was born Jewish, that technically makes me Jewish.

[ June 30, 2002: Message edited by: NumberTenOx ]

theyeti · 06-30-2002, 06:02 PM

Another good suggestion: organize a boycott. Get several religious groups who are against blatant descrimination to join in until he appologizes. Of course, it could backfire.

theyeti

Berenger Sauniere · 06-30-2002, 06:23 PM

LOL! He's probably been overcharging his Christian brethren all along as well.

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NumberTenOx Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 284	Atheist? An extra $10k for a car. Seen on King-5 TV tonight. Doug Bettarel, the owner of Better-All Auto in Yakima, WA - upset by the "Under God" ruling - will charge atheists an extra $10,000 for a used automobile. He says he won't ask, but if they volunteer the information, they get the extra charge. He said "if you're an atheist, I don't want to do business with you". (I'll post a link to an article as soon as I can find one). Another fine example of "freedom of religion" brought to you by the people of Washington State. [ June 29, 2002: Message edited by: NumberTenOx ]</p>

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06-29-2002, 10:34 PM	#2
Autonemesis Contributor Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I've left FRDB for good, due to new WI&P policy Posts: 12,048	WWJD? Buy or lease?

06-29-2002, 10:51 PM	#3
Seth K Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: SLO, CA Posts: 90	Don't you guys have civil rights laws up there? If they are anything like ours in CA, what he's doing would be illegal. I suggest if that's the case you WA atheists should all go to him for your next auto purchase and sue his fanny off.

06-30-2002, 12:13 AM	#5
HumanisTim Regular Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Reading,PA Posts: 233	Does he only sell used cars? or is he officially affiliated with a major car maker?. If hes affiliated with someone like Ford. I say lets mail them.

06-30-2002, 04:47 PM	#6
NumberTenOx Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Bellevue, WA Posts: 284	Here is the story reported by <a href="http://www.kapptv.com/index.php?section_id=668&xstate=view_story&story_i d=113684" target="_blank">KAPP TV - Yakima, WA</a>. I don't think he is affiliated with a car company.

06-30-2002, 06:02 PM	#9
theyeti Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Denver, CO, USA Posts: 9,747	Another good suggestion: organize a boycott. Get several religious groups who are against blatant descrimination to join in until he appologizes. Of course, it could backfire. theyeti

06-30-2002, 06:23 PM	#10
Berenger Sauniere Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: et in Arcadia ego... Posts: 406	LOL! He's probably been overcharging his Christian brethren all along as well.

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