contracycle

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sophie

Docter X, I actually caught one of your finer points.

Would their passing have alleviated their suffering. You cannot be sure if omniGOD did not intervene and the gentle fun loving girl child was saved of further pain.

Last night I read of a super nova exploding to litter our universe, and I wondered why omniGOD did not intervene, I wondered if omniGOD was thinking about all the little boys and girls who face extended and severe physical pain.

On another note, I read in this thrad about someone who did not wish free will in the face of having pain replaced. This is a big task for omniGOD, some want more free will to manage thir own affairs, while others want less so they can dial a loose experience. Not being related in any way to non-intervention precepts, I wonder if Docter Y formed an argument, and showed that because omniGOD does not interfere with our affairs, we all have equally good chances to polish our spirits with brillo. This argument should end in all individuals augmenting their consciousness to approach omniGOD.

Let us see, we start with (obsecquious non sequosious)
(1) Let us suppose there was an omniGOD.
(2) OmniGOD loved us so dearly, omniGOD wanted us to develop the omni in our beings.
(3) a good water tight example to show omniGOD does not interfere
(4) A conclusion drawn, that omniGOD cares about us.
(5) a chilling conclusion that either omniGOD does not exist or omniGOD loves us so so much and cares over our individuality with all omniPOWERS.

(obsuficus sans rectus)
now we let the public choose (sans interruptus).

(ha ha)

sophie

contracycle :
good.

miss djax

sophie,

i have been trying to follow this discussion, its been a bit unclear in parts but i want to ask you something....

if i follow you correctly, you seem to be saying that praying to ask god to do things interferes with free will, and omnigod can't /won't do that.....im paraphrasing, i know but hope i got the gist...

if thats true, then heres my question : why pray at all?

miss d

King Rat

God is silent and the question remains...

You can't have it both ways Sophist, err...I mean Sophie. Either your god is the interventionist god of the the bible or not. Did you invent this non-interventionist god yourself? Because that is not what baptists, catholics, protestants, Jdubs, lutherans, AOG, CS, mormons, etc. etc. teach.

The christian god is an interventionist, the god you mention sounds like some new-age-amorphous-non-committal-galactic-wuss.

Division By Zero

Bah!

So rather than curing her disease, he just kills her.
Rather than preventing the disease in the first place, he lets it run its course for a while before ending it.

If we "can't be sure" that this wasn't God's way of ending the girl's pain- and we can't, of course- then we are equally unsure that God didn't see a "gentle fun loving girl child" and decide to have some fun by torturing her for a while... until he got bored, and just killed her off.

sophie

DMBThis was in esponse to :

The appeal was to all those children found in life neglected by their parents. I am appealing to your good sense. yeh. There is a sort of ad hominemISHness in your good sense, yeh. I live in downtown Montral, yeh. I see them all the time, yeh. They walk around with needles in the hands, yeh. Some wanna do fellatio for 2 bucks, yeh. yeh, yeh. I suppose it was omniGOD who neglected them, yeh.

sophie

miss djax
(1) It helps you to focus on what you want to achieve.

(2) omniGOD may still be listening.

(3) Your appeals could be well recieved, and perhaps a nod, from omniGOD may help you when you move on.

(4) Your consciousness creates space for omniGOD when you pray, creats a metaphoric place in your heart, to help your conscience.

(5) Any combinations of the above.

This can be proved by using examples from those who pray and have been able to better take control their lives.

sophie

Division by Zero :

Sophie :

What other simpler reality do you need to face.

Purple Smartie

I lost you a few pages back when you said that the child's cancer was caused by immorality messing up her genetic code and causing a tumour.