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emotional · 06-21-2003, 11:19 AM

Faith doesn't save, Magus. Get that into your thick skull.

Magus55 · 06-21-2003, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by emotional
Faith doesn't save, Magus. Get that into your thick skull.

God said it does, so yes it does.

Magus55 · 06-21-2003, 01:04 PM

And Mageth - oddly enough - Jesus is a greater prophet than Mohammed. The Bible has nothing about Mohammed in it, yet the Quran has tons about Jesus in it. So thats a minimum of 3.2 Billion people who know of Jesus just based on the reading of the Bible and the Quran.

emotional · 06-21-2003, 02:12 PM

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God said it does, so yes it does.

God doesn't say it does. The Bible is not the Word of God. The Bible contains contradictions and scientific errors, so it cannot be the Word of God.

Evolution → no Adam and Eve → no Fall → no need for a Saviour → Christianity goes to the trash.

Infinity Lover · 06-21-2003, 03:54 PM

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Yes we are. Very few credible historians would doubt that as fact. Jesus of Nazareth did walk the Earth.

And argument that stands or falls with what you deem credible, I'm boldly assuming. When was the newsflash, that the historical Jesus has been proven beyond doubt, broadcasted? I must've missed that one, while I was watching some item about the ongoing investigation about the (lack off?) authenticity of the James Bonebox, or the Turin Shroud.

Infinity Lover · 06-21-2003, 04:01 PM

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And Mageth - oddly enough - Jesus is a greater prophet than Mohammed. The Bible has nothing about Mohammed in it, yet the Quran has tons about Jesus in it. So thats a minimum of 3.2 Billion people who know of Jesus just based on the reading of the Bible and the Quran.

That's because Mohamed hadn't been born yet in the time of the Jesus story, duh. And how does overlooking something as major as the future rise to religious stardom of Mohamed, and the explosive expansion of the Muslim faith make you a great prophet?

Biff the unclean · 06-21-2003, 06:44 PM

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Yes we are. Very few credible historians would doubt that as fact. Jesus of Nazareth did walk the Earth.

Not only can't anyone find a historic Jesus they can't find anyone he might have been based on. What the Hell they can't even find Nazareth. Today's Nazareth is a new town named after the mythical one.

06-22-2003, 12:43 PM

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Not only can't anyone find a historic Jesus they can't find anyone he might have been based on. What the Hell they can't even find Nazareth. Today's Nazareth is a new town named after the mythical one.

They did that to keep unbelievers going around in circles . . . looking for the ark, looking for Jesus, looking for Nazareth, etc., while we are actually the duplicate of Jesus looking for Calvary.

Biff the unclean · 06-22-2003, 02:20 PM

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They did that to keep unbelievers going around in circles . . . looking for the ark, looking for Jesus, looking for Nazareth, etc., while we are actually the duplicate of Jesus looking for Calvary.

Heaven forbid that those nasty unbelievers should find any proof at all...like Calvary, which they can't be sure of either. Because with proof there is no need for faith and we know how important faith is. Because without faith then you wouldn't believe such a cock and bull story and then where would you be? On your way to Hell, which there is no proof of either.

Though I can't help but notice with you, Magus and Paladin there seems to be nothing but believers who are going around in circles. I've yet to see how the total lack of evidence is making unbeliervers dizzy.

emotional · 06-22-2003, 02:37 PM

A faith that relies on evidence is not a strong faith. It will vanish if the evidence is refuted.

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06-21-2003, 11:19 AM	#21
emotional Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Boxing ring of HaShem, Jesus and Allah Posts: 1,945	Faith doesn't save, Magus. Get that into your thick skull.

06-21-2003, 01:04 PM	#23
Magus55 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: USA Posts: 7,204	And Mageth - oddly enough - Jesus is a greater prophet than Mohammed. The Bible has nothing about Mohammed in it, yet the Quran has tons about Jesus in it. So thats a minimum of 3.2 Billion people who know of Jesus just based on the reading of the Bible and the Quran.

06-22-2003, 02:37 PM	#30
emotional Banned Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Boxing ring of HaShem, Jesus and Allah Posts: 1,945	A faith that relies on evidence is not a strong faith. It will vanish if the evidence is refuted.

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