Amie

Hi Kally
we always have choices. At this moment in my life I am an adult and I was told many years ago by my parents that they are Santa, they were the ones leaving presents and eating the cookies. When knowledge like that is presented one still has the option of believing it however they have been told by the people who act as the "Santa" and the toothfairy and the Easter bunny. Now lets look at God, can we equate with that same thing, can we really equate God with one day a year? Can you say that there is absolutely no difference of belief in god and santa. Kally that is comparing apples and oranges.
I understand that you believe God is a fictional character Kally I really do however you have the choice to believe in God or not. you have the choice to believe God is fiction or God is very real. You choose he is fictional, I choose he is real. celebrate diversity.

Infinity Lover

While we're straying off topic here anyway...

I think that if one is to consider either believing or not believing a choice, it's not likely to be an abrupt one. Aside from those who have been believers pretty much their entire lives, I'd asume that for those who convert later on live it's more of a gradual devolpment. Probably somewhat similar to the deconversion of ex-theists.

Perhaps someone who converted later on in life could shed some more light on this.

hinduwoman

Obviously Allah is in charge. So he got seriously pissed with such a Christian president and wrong prayers.

Radorth

I thought you said they disagreed with me, and virtually all were busy thanking God so why would they buy it? Of course you said "we all" were praying at one point and God wasn't doing anything, so I doubt anybody's buying your assertions.

In any case, you are trying to make the point that everybody is busy praying and God has forsaken us anyway. I don't believe it. I see no evidence at all that people who actually intercede in a Biblical way suffer a great deal. I do not think that many people are praying in that way these days. There is no revival to speak of, no special days of prayer called by our leaders. After the roaring 90's everything seems on a pretty steady downhill slide into another war and I believe the U.S will suffer more than expected as a result.

And history will repeat itself once again.

Rad

The Naked Mage

Fine, then. Santa Claus AND the Easter Bunny.


Of course there are differences. Santa actually delivers the good stuff, for one thing, and he doesn't send the bad kids to a land of burning coal-lumps and dancing willow-switches for another.


Not at all. Just absurdity and absurdity.

Bobzammel

God isn't protecting America - why would he protect America and no where else? He doesn't take sounds between countries.

I seem to remember a place called Israel. Keep in mind also that in the Old Testament, God practically created wars--the first centuries of Israel is almost nothing *but* war.

oriecat

Exactly, but then why do we so often have to see and hear "God Bless America"?? Don't those people realize how arrogant it sounds?

Mad Kally

All I can think of to say is, HUH? A choice to believe in a fictional character?

Radorth

There's really an Easter Bunny?


Cool. Did he have twelve apostles? Did some of them write long narratives about his life on parchment, risk life and limp to preach his Kingdom? Were his early followers used for human torches by an evil king? Did he die for my sins? Did the Romans talk about him and his followers and kill them for no reason? Did most of the Founders follow his teachings along with Locke, Bacon, Newton, Pascal, Jefferson, Douglas, Beecher, Schweitzer, Muggeridge, Lewis. Peck and a thousand other misguided geniuses?

Man those Christian storytellers must have been greater geniuses to fool them. But they didn't fool the Mage, eh? Of course the Mage hasn't sold millions upon millions of books either.

Rad

Fiach

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Originally posted by Magus55

Amazing how much people love to blame God for your own failures.

Are you talking to me, Gomeral? I do not blame God for your failures. I think that you are just a modestly educated fundy with limited powers of reason. Whatever you do in your personal life, however disgusting it may be, I really don't know what it might be. But I would not blame God for it. You see, dear chap, God is imaginary. God is just an alter-ego of savage shamans, who created God in their own image and likeness.

But the atrocities in the Old testament were not the acts of an imaginary god, but of evil savage nomads using God as the excuse.

Fiach