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Old 03-17-2002, 06:36 PM   #61
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Yes, that was my point. The question was directed at SirenSpeak.

I don't know much about mental disorders, but if they're biochemical in origin, I don't see why they can't be treated the same way as physical disorders that are also biochemical in origin.
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Qos...There is no easy way to answer that question.
I see the point you are trying to make, however as I said before, I see a difference in these types of ailments.
Insulin dosent affect the mind...or your mood or the way you talk to people.

I think we as humans should be able to have control over what we think and do. Without relying on medication to keep our thoughts under control.

Again I'm sorry if I paraded my opinion as fact...
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I see the point you are trying to make, however as I said before, I see a difference in these types of ailments.
Insulin dosent affect the mind...or your mood or the way you talk to people.
Yes, but it's not supposed to affect any of those. It's supposed to correct a pancreatic condition. Similarly, Xanax isn't supposed to affect organs in your midsection (I think; correct me if I'm wrong). Your comment appears to be a non sequitur.

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I think we as humans should be able to have control over what we think and do. Without relying on medication to keep our thoughts under control.
So, if you knew a woman who was suffering from severe post-partum depression (and let's say she had several small kids to look after), would you tell her that she shouldn't rely on medication to keep her thoughts under control?

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So, if you knew a woman who was suffering from severe post-partum depression (and let's say she had several small kids to look after), would you tell her that she shouldn't rely on medication to keep her thoughts under control?

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I'm afraid I dont know much about post partum depression
I have an idea about what it is, but I dont really know enough to make a comment about that.
isnt PPD not something caused my chemical inbalance, but rather by situation initiated responses? Like the sudden shock of having children or no father around to help...
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Well, I just looked it up in my Taber's Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary :

"It is thought to be due to hormonal changes as well as emotional needs during this period. This occurs in 70 - 80% of mothers."
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The explanation for Post Partum that I think makes the most sense is that it is hormonal. The changes in a woman's hormonal and hence "chemical" systems during pregnancy are significant. It may take a year for her body to get back to normal. Lack of sleep and pressures of being a new parent compound the problem, but do not seem to be the root cause.

Anyone who suffers severe PMS (as I do) can somewhat imagine this magnified many times as it must be with pregnancy and childbirth. During PMS I often think I am acting in a rational manner when everyone around me looks at me like my face has turned blue.
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Q of S is a much faster typist...cross post
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Old 03-17-2002, 07:16 PM   #68
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I think we as humans should be able to have control over what we think and do. Without relying on medication to keep our thoughts under control.


Schizophrenia is what comes to mind. I think if it were always possible for humans to control what they think and do then it would not exist as it always has.

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I think we as humans should be able to have control over what we think and do. Without relying on medication to keep our thoughts under control.
I think we as humans should be able to have control over our physical movement. Without relying on wheelchairs and walkers to keep us mobile.

(I'm being sarcastic)
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I think we as humans should be able to have control over our physical movement. Without relying on wheelchairs and walkers to keep us mobile.

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hmm...I guess I really cant win this argument. When you compare mental and physical ailments to be one in the same, I really have no argument.

I guess I have learned to differentiate them. I guess that makes me different. I see the points you are all making, I guess I am living in a personal fantasy world, where we dont need drugs to make us happy or correct inbalances.

I just wish it was that way. I would hate to know the feeling of relying on a drug to motivate me to get out of bed in the morning
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