Biff the unclean

These are well stated subjective rhetoric. We live in a time where people demand proof. Where is your proof?
Oh my goodness you are so clever, what shall I ever do?
You want proof that God is a fictional character? Fine.
Let's start with the attributes that God has that only fictional characters like Harry Potter and Santa and Superman have. He has superpowers, he can do magic, he lives in a wonderful land that no one has ever seen. All standard fiction stuff that ONLY occurs in fiction and not reality.
Then there are the limitations that only fictional characters like Harry and Clark and God suffer from. All there wonderful adventures happen only between the covers of a book. In reality they can't make themselves seen or heard or felt by anyone. No actual person suffers from this affliction, but all fictional people do.
You can type the word "subjective" as many times as you please. But you would be better served looking up it's definition. Every thing I have stated is objective. It can all be checked and confirmed independently.

Now feel free to prove me wrong. Present your proof of God's existence. A small specimen or sample will do. Otherwise we will be awaiting your apology for being willfully deceptive.

Biff the unclean

Science has its limits but is often portrayed as fact , although in the end they are theories.
Not another one who doesn't know what the word THEORY means!!!! I swear but the religious appear to be willfully ignorant to me. It's like they go out of their way to remain uneducated.

The places with the oldest fossil records are also the places where Civilization have begun....However these countries include Egypt, Iraq and Saudi Arabia
No, that is not the truth at all.
I'm assuming that you are only speaking of human fossils. The oldest are coming from the Great Rift Valley in Africa, nowhere near any of the places you have named.

....where excavation and archaelogy is generally forbidden or limited....thus we will NEVER find out our true ancestry from using Science alone. Instead we rely on remote fossils found in Mongolia, and Australia.....
I picked up a 6 million-year-old fossil just this Sunday at the sea cliffs at Capitola CA. A piece of whale vertebrae. That beach has literally millions of fossils, mostly shells (6-8 MYO), for the taking, only steps from very fun & trendy restaurants.
There are fossils all over the world.

and recent fossils of these so called Humanoid , Simian-Humanoid or whatever bear very close resemblance to modern humans.
Actually they look something like three foot tall bonobos with elongated legs and human hips and knees
And this fictional cast is painted over them( their physique, their skulls) rendering them into beasts.
You realize of course that since these fossils have been in all the papers and on the net --and we have all seen them for ourselves-- that you are demonstrating that you have little or no regard for the truth. If you are going to lie to us don't be so obvious about it.

River

Your farcical concept of G-d bears no semblance to the concept of G-d in Islam.

Biff the unclean

Now, the REAL question is ....? Have you ever read DARWIN?
Yes, and in it I read that it was written in 1859. That's one hundred and forty four years ago. Are you trying to pretend that we have learned nothing in these 144 years? Are you pretending that the gaps in the fossil record have not been filled? Are you pretending that superstitious mumbo gumbo of a sky superman blowing his nose on a pile of dust that turns by magic into a fully-grown man is confirmed and evolution dismissed?

The REAL question is have you ever read Gould or Leakey?

River

Okay...lets break your argument in pieces ....shall we ...This procedure is only for analytical purposes and I promise you it won't hurt a bit.

It appears you have chose to abuse the definition of theory. Obviously I know what theory is. If I adhere to the concept that the Quran is the Uncreated Word of G-d then I am saying it as a factual statement. However, you have strongly stated that you are derived from ape or too be more apropriate ape-like ancestors. Now you are taking to heart a working theory , which is as of now not fact. It may one day be fact , but as of now it still has some holes to seal.

I am stating that it would be essential to recover fossils from areas where it has been documented by History that civilisation began. Iraq ( Babylon) , [Sumeria , Phoenicia, ]Egypt , Saudi Arabia are the Prime candidates . However, we have been restricted to finding fossils from elsewhere i.e Mongolia , Australasia, and as you stated South Africa.

Its good and all that you picked up a six million year fossil in your hand. But you cited time to point out the Biblical concept of human life being 6,000 years old. Obviously , this does not pertain to Islam for Islam recognizes that the world was made in stages and Eras ( of long periods of time)

The short three foot bonbons were probably some species of wild apes. However , I was referring to something else.

Biff the unclean

Really, so people can see and hear him. Or are you saying that he doesn't have super powers or he can't do things by magic?
Fine then just trot your God's ass out here so we can examine him and I'll retract what I have said.
I've seen Islam's concept of God. My daughter worked in the north tower of the TWC.

River

Thank you for verifying my statement.

River

Was I addressing this question to you?


P.S We do not have the concept of the " sky superman" god or the 6-mile man in Islam.


You are making alot of irrational deductions into the essense of my being.

MollyMac

No, you were addressing it to me. The answer is yes I read it all the way through.

Next?

Biff the unclean

It appears you have chose to abuse the definition of theory. Obviously I know what theory is.
Obviously you think the word theory means a guess. You have no concept of what a scientific theory is.

If I adhere to the concept that the Quran is the Uncreated Word of G-d then I am saying it as a factual statement.
Except it is not a factual statement> It is a completely unsupported contention that you are trying to trick people into thinking is a fact.

However, you have strongly stated that you are derived from ape or too be more apropriate ape-like ancestors. Now you are taking to heart a working theory , which is as of now not fact. It may one day be fact , but as of now it still has some holes to seal.
There aren't any holes to seal. There is no controversy except in the minds of the ignorant and superstitious.

I am stating that it would be essential to recover fossils from areas where it has been documented by History that civilisation began. Iraq ( Babylon) , [Sumeria , Phoenicia, ]Egypt , Saudi Arabia are the Prime candidates .
Why when that is not where early humans developed?
However, we have been restricted to finding fossils from elsewhere i.e Mongolia , Australasia, and as you stated South Africa.
They are looking for them in South Africa because that is where they are

Its good and all that you picked up a six million year fossil in your hand.
It's right here on my desk
But you cited time to point out the Biblical concept of human life being 6,000 years old. Obviously , this does not pertain to Islam for Islam recognizes that the world was made in stages and Eras ( of long periods of time)
I don't really care what time Islam recognizes.

The short three foot bonbons were probably some species of wild apes. However , I was referring to something else.
A bonbon is a small chocolate covered lump of ice cream. A Bonobo is our nearest relative. They used to be called pigmy chimps. They closely resemble Australopithecus which is what you were lying about…I mean referring to. Australopithecus was lighter and more up right.
It is interesting to note that because of recent findings in DNA research there is a movement to change the classification of chimps from Pan troglodytes to Homo troglodytes. This is really a vanity change. A more accurate one would be to change Homo sapiens to Pan sapiens