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Old 04-10-2003, 08:16 AM   #21
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You guys must get real tired of irrational believers... [/B]
No kidding... In general, people don't take other's drug-induced hallucinations as fact. Duh!

Tell, me if this god is so real, why couldn't he reveal himself to you until you were stoned out of your mind? Did he want other people to think your story is ridiculous?

So you saw weird stuff when stoned out of your mind. So what?

You don't recognize it as anything you'd ever seen before. Of course you didn't. You were stoned out of your mind!

The brain is an extremely complex biochemical apparatus, and messing with it is bound to produce unexpected results.
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I find it hard to belie ve that someone who had the NDE experience in conjunction with psychadelics still doesnt believe that he exists!
Too bad.
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So how do you explain it then?
Drug induced hallucinations.

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The things that I have seen did NOT come from my mind I can tell you that. Some may argue that the brain is scrambled and images from past experiences are mixed like a chimera. NOT.
And you are capable of making such accurate qualiative comparisons while stoned out of your mind?
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The shite I have seen did not come from my human experience. It is too bad some people still believe that something came from nothing.
Strawman. You have no idea what we think - only that we don't believe in god. Where the universe came from and how life evolved are totally different matters.
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So from all you have seen you still believe that this all came from what? Nothing!!!!! You are the highest power in the Universe!!! HA!!! I am a human being and there is no God!!!! LALALALALA.
Strawman. When have we ever claimed to be the highest power in the universe? We are human beings, yes. So freakin' what? We are simply an animal native to this planet who's finally managed to grok language and tool use sometime in the last 100,000 years.
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I know it all and there is no God!!!!! I am meaningless and cant see the power right in front of my eyes!!!
Strawman. We have never claimed to know it all. In fact, atheists in general represent such a wide spectrum of opinions and such that almost the only thing you can say about all of us is that we're not convinced god exists.

Want us to believe? Show us something! And no, I will *not* ingest enough of your psychotropic drug of choice to make myself believe anything at all first. Why can't we see it when our brains are in perfect working order?

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Oh ya and you didnt do enough!!!
Ahh, the 'no true scotsman'! Never mind the fact that you have no idea how much he did, the fact that he didn't see your god while hallucinating means without doubt that he didn't do enough! Never mind that your god could have revealed himself to you WITHOUT requiring mind-altering drugs to be used first and so not making you look as ridiculous. Bleh. Don't quit your day job.
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Old 04-10-2003, 08:40 AM   #23
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Don't quit your day job.

He should if it involves operating heavy machinery.
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Old 04-10-2003, 12:52 PM   #24
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It is too bad some people still believe that something came from nothing.


Indeed it is. I can't Imagine a god just popping into existence. BTW- what is shite?
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BTW- what is shite?

Pretentious shit.
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Old 04-10-2003, 09:58 PM   #26
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Psychotropic drugs exist.
People claim to see God while on psychotropic drugs.
Therfore, God exists!

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I already did.
ARGUMENT FROM MUSHROOMS

Silent Dave posted it; I sent it in by email before my registration went through here.
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Old 04-11-2003, 03:35 AM   #27
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i mean, on peyote one time i hallucinated an entire itty-bitty skeleton mariachi band, clear as day, marching along in their concho belts and sombreros like day of the dead threw up on the desert floor. this does not mean that i believe in the existence of itty-bitty desert-dwelling skeleton mariachi bands, for crying out loud.
Best. Hallucination. Ever.

(I don't take hallucinogens though - reason being, I'm very easily freaked out and not entirely stable enough to handle them, in my opinion)

Also, I think that any god which can only reveal itself to those who are tripping off their tits is a bit of a crap god. If your god is so great, why won't it reveal itself to me, right here in the computer room? That's when I'd start believing. Stone cold sober, half eleven in the morning, sitting gawping at the internet. If I could see god then...

...well, actually, I'd probably just think I was going nuts, as ever. And I'd come on here, tell them what I saw, and they'd give me a whole bunch of stuff about brain chemistry.

I think I'd only actually believe if everyone else in the computer room could see your god as well. And if there was a rain of fire or something. Real fire, mind. None of your hallucination nonsense.
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Old 04-11-2003, 04:16 AM   #28
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Chemically induced deity. This is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. This does at lest explain why someone would be brain dead. It might also explain why they would be a limp dick too!
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Hello Rubbercok3000,

I hope you won't ignore my post. While I've never tried DMT, I have tried psylosybin {sp?], just last week, as a matter of fact!

While trippin' sac, I noticed, at the local 7-11, a large row of Sprite bottles. In my altered state, I immediately began to imagine them as a well organized army. I'm dead serious here. It made soooo much sense to me then!

I identified one bottle that seemed to have definite leadership qualities. I called him "The General". Now, this was quite amazing, until "The General" began to march through the ranks of bottles, barking orders.

At that point, I left.

Later, I saw the Rolling Stones lips in the sky. I'm not sure exactly what that signifies. Perhaps God likes Satisfaction ?

However, if you believe that supernatural "experiences" on any kind of hallucinogen count in any way as evidence for the existence of some kind of divinity, I'd love to refer you to the other things that have been "proved" by people on various different hallucinogens.

I know Bob, the Magic Butterfly exists, because my friend got chased by him into a public bathroom while on 3 hits of acid.

I know that Burt, as in Burt from Sesame Street, works at the Little Peach near my house, because this same friend bought Danish Butter cookies from him once, again, on the 'cid.

Have you ever had a 3 hour conversation with a floating cod in your room?
My friend Hanky has!

Thus, I now know 2 things.

1. I can trust that my hallucinations are accurate ways to gain knowledge and:
2. I hang around with a bunch of druggies.

I gotta go now. Bob is sending an army of gun toting caterpillars my way.
Criminy.
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These tales are hilarious, keep 'em coming!
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