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Old 09-07-2002, 02:14 AM   #1
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If Jesus came back(as unlikely as the elves at the bottom of my garden saying hello, unfriendly bastards) what would happen?
You have to remember Jesus was a Jew and looked like a Palestinian Jew i.e. not a white European. Being non-white and Jewish I don't think the majority of Christians would accept him. Muslims would try to kill him and Jews wouldn't accept him because they killed him in the first place, more or less.
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<strong>If Jesus came back(as unlikely as the elves at the bottom of my garden saying hello, unfriendly bastards) what would happen?
You have to remember Jesus was a Jew and looked like a Palestinian Jew i.e. not a white European. Being non-white and Jewish I don't think the majority of Christians would accept him. Muslims would try to kill him and Jews wouldn't accept him because they killed him in the first place, more or less.</strong>
Just who do you think you are?
Are you making a statement that Jesus was Black??
I have heard some pretty sacrilegious stuff promoting some asinine theories but this takes the grand prize.
Everyone who has ever attended a protestant church
knows Jesus was caucasian, I mean just look at all the art and in the churches.
Sheesh....everyone has seen pictures of Jesus.

You are probably some revisionist starting trouble
here.......like all those paintings in the European Catholic churches that someone has painted the virgin Mary Black holding a black child in her arms.
You cant just change thousands of years of history
by changing the ethnicity of jesus....dummy.
You better stay away from the southern baptists with that attitude buddy if you dont want to get yourself in real trouble.
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And he had long hair, too. Despite Paul's saying that it is a disgrace for men to have such. But that's no incompatibility, because for God everything is permitted, right?
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<strong>And he had long hair, too. Despite Paul's saying that it is a disgrace for men to have such. But that's no incompatibility, because for God everything is permitted, right?</strong>
Jesus had long hair and a beard but Christ did not. Long hair and a beard symbolized sin nature and sin and that sin nature was crucified to present a clean shave Christ with a halo instead of a beard. This is clear from Byzantine and Renaissance art (pre reformation).
 
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like all those paintings in the European Catholic churches that someone has painted the virgin Mary Black holding a black child in her arms.
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Mary is always a "local girl" because She represents wisdom (TOL) obtained from the local garden via the Tree of Knowledge (TOK).

It is interesting to see how nearly (?) every European City has its own story to tell and a Mary images to back up this story. They are very collectable items and not expensive either.
 
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<strong> Muslims would try to kill him and Jews wouldn't accept him because they killed him in the first place, more or less.</strong>
They would never recognize him and I think protestant and Jews are killing him right now.
 
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I'm getting a little too old for a second comming. one is usually all I can manage. ta ta boom.

Anyway isn't he supposed to come out of the sky riding a big white horse? I don't see how anyone could miss this.

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<strong>I'm getting a little too old for a second comming. one is usually all I can manage. ta ta boom.

Anyway isn't he supposed to come out of the sky riding a big white horse? I don't see how anyone could miss this.

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The second coming....yea.
The second coming is supposedly just for gentiles right?
Cause no orthodox Jew would support any "second coming", there is no such animal in the Torah.
Moshe Maimonides included in his code of Jewish Law specifically what must be accomplished before being recognized as the "messiah".
Clearly it states that an individual who does not succeed fully in the fulfillment of these conditions or was killed before any of the conditions were fully accomplished that person could not be considered as the "Messiah".You either get it right the first time, or you dont make the cut. Second coming my butt.....
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The difference between the first and second coming is that Jews are mesmerized by the OT and in anticipation look forward to the first coming of Christ in their own life while Catholics linger in anticipation towards the second coming of Christ in their own life while following the example set by the first coming of Christ in the life of Jesus who was a Jew.

This renders the "coming" of Christ and end to religious observance and until such time has come the politics of religion will prevail. From this follows that it is impossible to abandon the politics of religion because if Christ has not come to set us free from religion he is still coming (which is bad news for both believing and unbelieving theist because both have been misled to believe that within the -ism is where it as at).
 
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I don`t know if Jesus was black or not,but I once overheard a black girl in an Amtrak smoking car say that the head on Jesus` Jimmy was the size of an apple.

Oh wait. Now that I think about it I think she was taking about Arsenio Hall. Nevermind.
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