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Frivolous · 11-24-2002, 06:59 AM

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I like the argument, "how can we come from a single cell (humans from bacteria)? It's just impossible."
I guess a zygote isn't considered a cell.

Well if i said that, which i probably will at one stage or another, i would probably be referring to the pluripotency of a bacteria cell when compared with a human zygote

Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ · 11-24-2002, 09:20 AM

Did you tell him about the whole concept of "thermal contact"? Or what about heat generation?

Some people are just...
stupid.

pz · 11-24-2002, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by Frivolous:


Well if i said that, which i probably will at one stage or another, i would probably be referring to the pluripotency of a bacteria cell when compared with a human zygote

Don't even try to do that unless you are considerably more informed about the meanings of the words you use. Human zygotes are totipotent, as are bacterial cells. I don't think that pluripotency/totipotency mean quite what you think they do.

LeftCoast · 11-24-2002, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Camaban:


If it makes you ashamed to be of the same species as the quotee, it counts.

(Haven't read much of his stuff... ARN's moderation style is extremely offputting)

Who's Albert Costello?

[ November 24, 2002: Message edited by: Camaban ]

He's referring to Abbott and Costello a comdey team from the 1940's and 1950's and specifically to their classic routine "Who's on first" I found a transcript <a href="http://www2.ocean.washington.edu/whos.on.first.html" target="_blank">here.</a>

There's an MP3 version <a href="http://www.randywelborn.com/OTR/index.shtml" target="_blank">here.</a>(Second item in the right hand column)

Oxymoron · 11-24-2002, 12:28 PM

Didn't Descartes argue that 'God is perfect, to be perfect you have to exist, therefore God exists'? It's pretty damn lame whoever argued it.

Xeluan · 11-24-2002, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Camaban:


If it makes you ashamed to be of the same species as the quotee, it counts.

(Haven't read much of his stuff... ARN's moderation style is extremely offputting)

I think those that need to be ashamed are those that slavishly live off his words and view him as some sort of ID guru.

Moderation is not the problem reading his material. It is the dangerous combination of arrogance, ignorance and obfuscation.

Xeluan

Camaban · 11-24-2002, 01:07 PM

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Did you tell him about the whole concept of "thermal contact"? Or what about heat generation?

Pointed out that heat is still being generated. (I think that thread is going to be topped for a while)

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I think those that need to be ashamed are those that slavishly live off his words and view him as some sort of ID guru.

They're merely gullible. Not the ones coming up with the truly bad arguments (in most cases)

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Moderation is not the problem reading his material. It is the dangerous combination of arrogance, ignorance and obfuscation.

I was talking about anything on ARN in general.

RufusAtticus · 11-24-2002, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by LeftCoast:

He's referring to Abbott and Costello a comdey team from the 1940's and 1950's and specifically to their classic routine "Who's on first" I found a transcript <a href="http://www2.ocean.washington.edu/whos.on.first.html" target="_blank">here.</a>

There's an MP3 version <a href="http://www.randywelborn.com/OTR/index.shtml" target="_blank">here.</a>(Second item in the right hand column)

<a href="http://www.villines.com/Internet/hus.htm" target="_blank">Hu's on First?</a>

RufusAtticus · 11-24-2002, 01:25 PM

The weakest argument,

"If you just accept Jesus in your heart, then you'd think like me."

The thin man · 11-24-2002, 02:01 PM

"No death before the fall."

The first time I heard this argument, I asked "you mean no beetles were stepped on by the large grazers (including all dinos), no ants were on the blades of grass that were eaten by these grazers, and the plankton grazers were able to seperate the phytoplankton(sp) from the zoo plankton?"

Needless to say, the person who made that argument has not made it since.

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11-24-2002, 09:20 AM	#12
Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Heaven Posts: 6,980	Did you tell him about the whole concept of "thermal contact"? Or what about heat generation? Some people are just... stupid.

11-24-2002, 12:28 PM	#15
Oxymoron Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: http://10.0.0.2/ Posts: 6,623	Didn't Descartes argue that 'God is perfect, to be perfect you have to exist, therefore God exists'? It's pretty damn lame whoever argued it.

11-24-2002, 01:25 PM	#19
RufusAtticus Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NCSU Posts: 5,853	The weakest argument, "If you just accept Jesus in your heart, then you'd think like me."

11-24-2002, 02:01 PM	#20
The thin man Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux City, IA Posts: 10	"No death before the fall." The first time I heard this argument, I asked "you mean no beetles were stepped on by the large grazers (including all dinos), no ants were on the blades of grass that were eaten by these grazers, and the plankton grazers were able to seperate the phytoplankton(sp) from the zoo plankton?" Needless to say, the person who made that argument has not made it since.

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