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Corgan Sow · 12-22-2002, 07:40 AM

OMFG, another Christian friend spewed this shit on me again:

<a href="http://www.nccg.org/338Art-Atheism.html" target="_blank">Belief and unbelief: The cause of atheism.</a>

and, yet again...

Quote:

"As a communist I don't believe in heaven or the Bible but as a scientist I now believe in hell," said Dr. Azzacove. "Needless to say we were shocked to make such a discovery. But we know what we saw and we know what we heard. And we are absolutely convinced that we drilled through the gates of hell!"

Dr. Azzacove continued, ". . .the drill suddenly began to rotate wildly, indicating that we had reached a large empty pocket or cavern. Temperature sensors showed a dramatic increase in heat to 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

"We lowered a microphone, designed to detect the sounds of plate movements down the shaft. But instead of plate movements we heard a human voice screaming in pain! At first we thought the sound was coming from our own equipment.

"But when we made adjustments our worst suspicions were confirmed. The screams weren't those of a single human, they were the screams of millions of humans!"

What I'm going to play to you now is that actual recording. It's � a minute long. What you are going to hear is disturbing. If you don't want to hear it, I suggest you put your fingers in your ears when I turn on the tape recorder.

What do you think of these "proofs"? Makes sense that Dr Azzacove's microphone didn't melt at 2,000 Fahrenheit.

Psycho Economist · 12-22-2002, 08:29 AM

Wow... that's what happens when you let credulous people get ahold of The Onion, I guess.

Weren't these guys the subject of a weekly nut-watch a few short weeks ago?

Quote:

Why do people believe what they believe is surely a very important question, and yet you will find your average Joe Bloggs isn't even interested in why he believes what he believes. He simply makes his mind up to believe or not believe about something, preferring to leave the thinking to others. Such mental laziness can be fatal.

Ah... cognitive psychologists have been trying to crack this nut for years. Crazy thing is, a large part of how I came to be an atheist comes from dissecting my beliefs, and why I believed them and on what grounds. Well, at least he comprehended that second-hand book, the kind he doesn't buy too often

.

I have to pack and return home for winter break. Else I'd go over this one with a fine-toothed comb.

Luiseach · 12-22-2002, 08:29 AM

Digging for hell...

lol Oh dear, but this is too much...please tell me no one actually believes in this nonsense? :-D

Goodness...lmao

(edited for clarity...replying to original post)

[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: Luiseach ]</p>

Vicar Philip · 12-22-2002, 10:39 AM

Oh my!! The Vicar is chuckling over this one!!

Did a little surfing and found a site that thoroughly debunks this story:

<a href="http://ship-of-fools.com/Myths/03Myth.html" target="_blank">Drilling to Hell (Indeed!)</a>

I think this is even above the Weekly World News' standards. Er... maybe not.....

Vicar

Queen of Swords · 12-22-2002, 11:13 AM

Originally posted by Psycho Economist:
<strong>
Weren't these guys the subject of a weekly nut-watch a few short weeks ago?</strong>

<a href="http://www.ludd.luth.se/~asmodean/nutwatch/nwdisplay.php3?file=nws/WN13.nws&num=13" target="_blank">Yes, they were!</a>

seebs · 12-22-2002, 11:15 AM

That sounds very much like an onion story from a while back.

Mageth · 12-22-2002, 11:25 AM

<a href="http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.htm" target="_blank">Snopes on drilling for hell.</a>

[edited to fix URL - Mageth]

[ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: Mageth ]</p>

Luiseach · 12-22-2002, 01:48 PM

Excerpt from link provided by the Vicar:

'Characteristic of many urban legends, this story was alleged to have occurred in an obscure part of the world where it would be virtually impossible to track down the facts. And once the story got started, people began quoting one another's newsletters to validate their own. This is the stuff of which tabloid newspapers are made.'

Hmmm...I sense a potential analogy. ;-)

Sunfair · 12-23-2002, 11:49 AM

Art Bell's website had an audio clip of that. I thought it was quite interesting, but then I'm a bit of an audiophile. If it's the same one Snopes is talking about I disagree with their opinion that it sounds like typical bar noises on a Friday night.

It sounds more like giant fingernails on a giant chalkboard.

It's amusing that the fake article says they expected to hear the sound of the tectonic plates scrapping together, and then when they heard it they thought it's something else...

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12-22-2002, 08:29 AM	#3
Luiseach Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: limbo Posts: 986	Digging for hell... lol Oh dear, but this is too much...please tell me no one actually believes in this nonsense? :-D Goodness...lmao (edited for clarity...replying to original post) [ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: Luiseach ]</p>

12-22-2002, 10:39 AM	#4
Vicar Philip Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cozy little chapel of me own Posts: 1,162	Oh my!! The Vicar is chuckling over this one!! Did a little surfing and found a site that thoroughly debunks this story: <a href="http://ship-of-fools.com/Myths/03Myth.html" target="_blank">Drilling to Hell (Indeed!)</a> I think this is even above the Weekly World News' standards. Er... maybe not..... Vicar

12-22-2002, 11:13 AM	#5
Queen of Swords Contributor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada. Finally. Posts: 10,155	Originally posted by Psycho Economist: <strong> Weren't these guys the subject of a weekly nut-watch a few short weeks ago?</strong> <a href="http://www.ludd.luth.se/~asmodean/nutwatch/nwdisplay.php3?file=nws/WN13.nws&num=13" target="_blank">Yes, they were!</a>

12-22-2002, 11:15 AM	#6
seebs Contributor Join Date: May 2002 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 24,524	That sounds very much like an onion story from a while back.

12-22-2002, 11:25 AM	#7
Mageth Contributor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Deep in the heart of mother-lovin' Texas Posts: 29,689	<a href="http://www.snopes.com/religion/wellhell.htm" target="_blank">Snopes on drilling for hell.</a> [edited to fix URL - Mageth] [ December 22, 2002: Message edited by: Mageth ]</p>

12-22-2002, 01:48 PM	#8
Luiseach Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: limbo Posts: 986	Excerpt from link provided by the Vicar: 'Characteristic of many urban legends, this story was alleged to have occurred in an obscure part of the world where it would be virtually impossible to track down the facts. And once the story got started, people began quoting one another's newsletters to validate their own. This is the stuff of which tabloid newspapers are made.' Hmmm...I sense a potential analogy. ;-)

12-23-2002, 11:49 AM	#9
Sunfair Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA Posts: 110	Art Bell's website had an audio clip of that. I thought it was quite interesting, but then I'm a bit of an audiophile. If it's the same one Snopes is talking about I disagree with their opinion that it sounds like typical bar noises on a Friday night. It sounds more like giant fingernails on a giant chalkboard. It's amusing that the fake article says they expected to hear the sound of the tectonic plates scrapping together, and then when they heard it they thought it's something else...

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