Gregg

I'm sorry. I don't like Bush and I didn't vote for him, but I just don't see this in him. Perhaps in some members of his administration, but not in him.

OT, though. So I'm shutting up now.

Gregg

Sarpedon

Actually, I wouldn't mind very much if all the sudden, all the christians in the world were taken away. I think it would be an improvement.

Primordial Groove

Magus55:

Oppps, seems you are still stuck out...you unchosen infidel.

Spaz

I hope you actually read what I said

oriecat

Magus, you forgot to include "I can't wait! " this time. Yes, folks he said it before.


Ok, here's what I want to know. If Satan is so bad, which he must be since he gets blamed for so much bad stuff in the world, then why is god waiting to throw him in this lake of fire? Why doesn't he just throw the bastard in and get it over with? Think how many more people could be saved from hell if Satan wasn't here deceiving them?!

Magus55

You don't know for a fact its the only life we have. Until you can prove that statement your argument is only your personal opinion.

They are only gloom and doom for those who aren't saved by Christ. Christians have no reason to fear Revelation. And again, its superstition to you, its real to us.

As i already mentioned, only God knows that. Could be tomorrow, could be in 10 years.

My time was just right thanks. Adam and Even were created sinless, ageless, could never die or get sick, never experienced pain or hardship and lived in the land of perfection. They were perfect, but they had Free will. Perfection can be a temporary state when Free will is involved. When somone has the best body in the world, and its deemed the perfect physique - does that mean its impossible for that person to get fat and lose the perfect body? No, perfection only stays perfect if it is maintained.

Well afterr the Christians disappear, the earth will be bombarded with asteroids, earthquakes, , global plagues, the most evil human to ever exist, who will control the world, 4 horseman of apocolypse, 100's of millions of other horseman who spread death and war, complete darkness, world wide mass murder, wars everywhere, famine, etc. It will be literally Hell on Earth. Still sound enjoyable?

What is that supposed to mean?

Yes of course I did, and my statement still stands.

Sarpedon

Asteroids? where are they mentioned in the bible?

And horsemen? I'll just get myself a tank. That'll take care of that. I just love it how supposedly "modern" people still believe that angels use antiquated weapons like swords and wear armor similar to those of roman legionaries. This stuff was state of the art at the time those primitive fools invented your religion, and they couldn't have imagined that anything more powerful would ever be invented. They say of course that it was "figurative." Lies.

Hell on earth? you mean worse than the constant religious wars you scum are responsible for? I find that hard to believe.

Most evil person ever? again, how could he be worse than what we've always seen.

And another thing. Jesus himself said that he was going to come back within the life times of the people he was talking to. That was almost 2 thousand years ago. He didn't come back. There are two possibilities: Either he was mistaken, or he was lying. Either one means that he wasn't god. Yet gullible christians continue to believe that his return is imminent. Its just their way of getting money out of you in church, and buying those idiotic "left behind" books.

Everyone knows that when Paul had his so called vision recorded in revelations he was in prison at the time. When someone is kept without food and water, its quite common that they hallucinate. Accept it.

Hedwig

Wow, Magus...why do you even bother to get up in the morning?

lpetrich

It wasn't Paul, but someone named John. And there is nothing on whether he had been imprisoned; the Book of Revelation only states that he had been exiled to the island of Patmos.

And all I can say about that book is:

Be careful with those 'shrooms!

Magus55

Asteroids:

Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit


4 Horseman of Apocalypse:


Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Rev 6:3 And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.

Rev 6:4 And there went out another horse [that was] red: and [power] was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

Rev 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.

Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and [see] thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

Rev 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.

Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Actually, non Christians have caused more killing and violence on Earth than Christians so thats a false argument. So bitter with Hate...

Primitive methods? Um Hello, Stars falling from Heaven, Earthquakes, Horseman: Death, War, Famine, Pestilence, Plagues of Boils, Darkness. You call that primitive? Thats more destruction and chaos than humans could ever dream up. One Asteroid is like 10 million Nuclear Weapons. Hardly what i call primitive.

The Antichrist will come on the scene, ushering in a false peace in the Middle East. He will get tons of followers and seem like the nicest guy. Then he will show his true colors, slaughter anyone who doesn't follow him and make Hitler look like Mother Theresa.

Jesus didn't say he would come back in the Apostles life times. In fact he said he would return in our lifetimes and to watch the signs ( signs of the end times). Atheists just always try to use that verse incorrectly to disprove the Bible. Jesus wasn't talking about his second coming there, he was talking about his original Ascension into Heaven.