Freethought & Rationalism Archive

Arikay · 06-05-2003, 01:24 AM

Hello,
A quick question about copyright.

If a paper/book has the copyright:

"Copyright � 2003 (author name here). All rights under copyright reserved. The contents of this website and all associated links and texts may not be copied or reproduced by any means, electronic, or otherwise, without the express written consent of the publisher and or author. "

Could I still use excerpts of it if I wanted to refute the material, as long as I cited them?
Or does this prevent the use of the paper/book for quoting to refute it?

-Ari

RufusAtticus · 06-05-2003, 02:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arikay
Could I still use excerpts of it if I wanted to refute the material, as long as I cited them?

Yes, it's called fair use. You can quote excerts, as long as you are not effectively quoting the entire work. AiG got in trouble for doing this, then whinged that the evilutionists were making them comply with the law.

Valentine Pontifex · 06-05-2003, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RufusAtticus
Yes, it's called fair use. You can quote excerts, as long as you are not effectively quoting the entire work. AiG got in trouble for doing this, then whinged that the evilutionists were making them comply with the law.

AiG did not get into trouble on this issue. They got a letter from Scientific American's lawyers and AiG successfully called their bluff and left the article unchanged on its website.

Arikay · 06-05-2003, 02:51 PM

Ok, thanks, so If I used quotes from the material as in a review of the material, its within free use?

I read through a small bit of that article, It was really funny how they called them "anti creationists" instead of "evolutionists" No, that wasnt a propaganda idea that was designed to appeal to the ignorant "us vs them" masses, really it wasnt.

Valentine Pontifex · 06-05-2003, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arikay
Ok, thanks, so If I used quotes from the material as in a review of the material, its within free use?

I read through a small bit of that article, It was really funny how they called them "anti creationists" instead of "evolutionists" No, that wasnt a propaganda idea that was designed to appeal to the ignorant "us vs them" masses, really it wasnt.

Short quotes for purposes of a review is always fair use.

Again you are refered to the law. Here is the law (United States Code, Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 107):

Quote:

107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use

Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include-

(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes;

(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;

(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and

(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

That is the extent of how the law describes fair use.

06-05-2003, 01:24 AM	#1
Arikay Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ca, Usa Posts: 262	Question about Copyright Hello, A quick question about copyright. If a paper/book has the copyright: "Copyright � 2003 (author name here). All rights under copyright reserved. The contents of this website and all associated links and texts may not be copied or reproduced by any means, electronic, or otherwise, without the express written consent of the publisher and or author. " Could I still use excerpts of it if I wanted to refute the material, as long as I cited them? Or does this prevent the use of the paper/book for quoting to refute it? -Ari

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

06-05-2003, 02:51 PM	#4
Arikay Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ca, Usa Posts: 262	Ok, thanks, so If I used quotes from the material as in a review of the material, its within free use? I read through a small bit of that article, It was really funny how they called them "anti creationists" instead of "evolutionists" No, that wasnt a propaganda idea that was designed to appeal to the ignorant "us vs them" masses, really it wasnt.

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.