St. Robert

Perhaps, Spong had never been a true believer in Jesus. I foolishly assumed that he must have been.

More and more, the Christian church will denounce many of the basic tenets of the faith so as to accommodate the world. The primary focus of the church will be to please man, instead of Christ.

Let's suppose that there is actually a battle being fought in the supernatural for the souls of men and women. Wouldn't it be wise for the devil to masquerade as a man of God? Wasn't it clever for the terrorists of 9/11 to become accepted members of our society? Wouldn't it be shrewd of a child molester to disguise himself as a priest?

Spong may be a threat to the Christian church, but he is no threat to Jesus Christ.

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HelenM

Oh, sure.

I expect we see it all the time!

No offense but - maybe it's him; maybe it's you; maybe it's me (were I a man! ); who is to say which is the man of God who is really the devil in disguise?

But I suppose it's obvious to you

love
Helen

nogods4me

or the son of god?

Bill Snedden

It certainly wouldn't be wise to masquerade as an apostate, so I guess that means Spong is just another human being, like you and me.

How refreshing it is to see committed Christians agree with many of us that Christianity isn't necessarily representative of Christ.

Even more interesting is that this is essentially what Spong is saying...

Regards,

Bill Snedden

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Rev. Joshua

The biggest reason some folks don't like Spong is that he took the academic study of religion that was hidden away in universities and seminaries for decades and made it public (see also Will Campbell and Kirby Godsey).

Dangerouse stuff when your congregation finds out that the seminary you went to teaches that Gen 1-11 is all myth.

Joshua

St. Robert

According to biblical prophecy, apostasy will continue to increase in the church as the world prepares itself for the AntiChrist. Spong is fulfilling the very word of God that he claims is unreliable.

In the end, what you or I say about God or anyone else won't matter. What will matter is whether you have Jesus as an advocate or not.

Thor Q. Mada

The church (anyone) has always been there to accomodate man. What do you want?? No reply from the entity you are praying to automatically leads to interpretation of writings and dogmas. It is normal and has been going on for ages.
Also, times have changed a bit, and some of the earlier prescriptions were just not tenable anymore.
And when you say the church is accomodating, which time span do you refer to as been OK. The church of 20 years ago, 500 years ago, 2000 years ago?? Which was the right one??

St. Robert

God has made several convenants with the Jewish people and the nation of Israel most notably through Abraham, Moses, and David. Each time God kept his promise and his people failed to follow in spirit and truth. Finally, God established his everlasting convenant through the sacrifice of His son Jesus. This final convenant gave birth to the church. Just as the Jews broke the earlier convenants with God, so shall the church lose faith under increased pressure from the non-believer. There are numerous examples of this lack of faith by the church since it began. If you are interested in knowing which church is the right one, Jesus describes the true church in John chapters 3 and 4.

slacker

slacker

I don't think he's a threat to Christ either, probably for different reasons than you.

"The very word 'Christianity' is a misunderstanding--at bottom there was only one Christian, and he died on the cross." -- Nietzsche (The Anti-Chirst 39)