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Old 04-30-2003, 02:08 PM   #11
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The fall of mankind, brought sin and death into the world. Our bodies our corrupt and deteriorate, sleep keeps it repairing itself. Before the fall of mankind, sleep probably wasn't needed, because humans weren't originally created to get tired or worn out.
Ah, right. Then how, exactly, did sleep come to be?

I'm no biologist. In fact, I'm a Gymnasium student who sleeps through monday morning biology. But I imagine there must be a great deal of glands and such involved in the activity of sleep; It's probably more complicated than a switch in the brain that either points to "Awake/Deteriorate" or "Sleep/Repair". I'll go out on a limb here and assume this; Please, if I'm wrong, save me further embarrassment and correct me.

So, were these functions already present when God coaxed humanity out of dirt? If so, wasn't God a bit of an ass to assume (or be fully aware of, considering omniscience) humanity's fall like that?

And if they weren't present, how did they spontaneously pop up after the fall? Did God do some post-fall tinkering in Adam and Eve's innards without them noticing? It must have happened pretty quickly; After all, a (fallen) human can survive only so long without sleep before being driven insane. Wait, hold on a minute . . .
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Before the fall of mankind, sleep probably wasn't needed, because humans weren't originally created to get tired or worn out.
How about sloths? Did slothkind fall even deeper than we did ?
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Sorry fella, but that is unsubstantiated bollocks.
So is the universe forming on its own, whats your point?
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So is the universe forming on its own, whats your point?
It's certainly more believeable than your 'explanation.'
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I have respect for the supernatural beliefs of nonliterate cultures, though not of course greater respect than for Rome and Greece. And these cultures tend to believe that dreams are experiences of supernaturalism. This assumption is a great counter to Chad's worry about taking time away from conscious contemplation of the gods. The gods may well consider certain dreams to be a form of worship of them, and one that is not affected in the least by today's trend toward disbelief and irreligion

Why, just last week I dreamed about Piers Anthony's Proton-and-Phaze trilogy, and I'm still trying to figure out what it means and work it into my life.
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So is the universe forming on its own, whats your point?
My "point" is that your statement was, and still is unsubstantiated. It is without supporting evidence. It is a nonsense. It is pie-in-the-sky. It is bollocks.

Any clearer for you, now?

By inference you appear to be accusing me of claiming that the universe formed itself. If that is the case, please show me where I have made this claim.
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