meritocrat

Why would a 'loving God' condone slavery in the Bible?

And please no nonsense about how such a passage is not applicable to modern times. A rational being like God should present a faith applicable to all times.

happyboy

because He's a murderous bastard.

that's why.

happyboy

emotional

nt

meritocrat

All of the Bible is relevant to Christianity. Don't Christians base any objection to homosexuality from passages from the Old Testament?

emotional

Sorry. I posted something and deleted it by substituting "nt" ("no text") for the text. Please ignore.

christ-on-a-stick

Howdy meritocrat,

If any of our resident (fundamentalist Xian) theists respond, prepare yourself for a lengthy and convoluted explanation based NOT on anything actually in the Bible but large doses of speculation and assumptions pieced together ad-hoc in an attempt to wiggle around and circumvent what the Bible ACTUALLY says and what it *fails* to say.

It's quite a gymnastics exhibition

Godless Dave

And yet somehow more plausible to them than this explanation: because the authors of the Bible owned slaves so when they invented a God they decided he condoned slavery.

Psychic

Wooow, I've been looling all over the IIDB to find this! meritocrat! congratulations! I am glad for you! this is actually what we can call "your first arguement".

slavery is one of the good topics to adress, but how about the connection between the bible and the other ancient culture rituals! the Sacrifice!
the sacrifice rituals have its root long way back in history of man. and I see the sacrifce of Jesus as a contiuation (though a newrer enhanced version) of those rituals. I mean why would GOD have to sacrifice GOD's blood so that GOD can forgive his children! does it really make sense.

all that about god sending his only son to us, and the exaggeration of the sacrifice Jesus made to redeem humanity! redeem humanity from who? from god (jesus)? it doesn't make sense at all.
I mean, do I have to cut my throat to tell you how much I love you? and to be able to forgive you I need to bite my tongue or something. and then i'll hold it agianst you as the most passionate sacrifice I've ever given to anyone!
lot of sense in that.

Biff the unclean

Looking at all the things that the NT condones and condemns I can't help but notice that it agrees 100% with Roman custom and mores. Slaves, treatment of women, hatred of Jews it's all there. You could replace all the values it proposes with the Latin term "status quo."

trillian

There are many who would argue that slave meant simply servant, and that people freely sold themselves into servitude because they were destitute so that the slave owner was actually doing them a favor! Also there ARE passages in the bible which say basically "be nice to your slaves and set them free every once in a while with some goodies to take".

But I never see this verse in their discussion:

I believe Exodus goes on to tell fathers how to sell their daughters as slaves as well. All of it is part of the society of the time(as Biff points out) BUT in the Bible its given as "God's Word". His "eternal" righteous Word.

Do Christians think this part should have been edited out? Before God told them this, were they allowed to kill their servants on the spot without penalty? And so this is an improvement in the Law of the time?