Cipher Girl

Perhaps a "laying on of hands" and having Benny Hinn blow on his crotch would help. They could broadcast this on one of the porno satellite stations. I wonder how many would pay to watch this variety act?

Hmmmm... Ya know, they could wear a little leather and charge more. I'm sure that will entice both Roberson and Hinn.

winstonjen

Yep. I don't want to INFLICT a headache or cancer on anyone, though.

HelenM

If you truly think this, please explain what puts Pat Robertson 'on the same level' as Hitler and Stalin.

Some people would, for sure.

Others would focus on having whatever evil such people are doing stopped and them being justly punished for it.

If you think about it, causing someone to suffer doesn't 'undo' any of the evil they have done. So it doesn't really 'help'.

Anyway, if you do delight in the suffering of others, who's to say you wouldn't be causing it, if that lay within your power? Which is a scary thought to me. I don't ever want to think that the only thing holding me back from causing others to suffer is my lack of power to inflict suffering on them. But if I delighted in the suffering of others, how could I be sure that wasn't true of me?

This reminds me of the chills I felt hearing and seeing the glee of people over Timothy McVeigh's execution. Not that they did it painfully. But still, I was saddened to see so many people made happy because the life of a healthy young person was deliberately ended. I wish they could find other things to be happy about.

Helen

lunatic.retired

Well, I would certainly put Robertson in the same class as Hitler or Stalin, the only difference to me would be opportunity.

Imagine, if you will, Pat Robertson as president of the USA. What would life be like gay people in America, or muslim Americans etc ...etc [endless list?].

Compulsory bible study in school perhaps?

Evolution removed from the school curriculum and replaced by cretinism perhaps ?

Pat Robertson with power similiar to what Hitler and Stalin had, what on earth do you think would stop him! ?

HelenM

Even if you're right, since when did changing the school curriculum become equal to torturing and killing tons of people?

Did I miss something?

Do you really think Pat Robertson would torture and/or kill tons of people, if given the opportunity?

I don't think so for a moment. If you think so, can you give some reasons/evidence why?

Helen

Gooch's dad

Dangin, are you sure those #'s are for prostate cancer, and not BPH? Benign prostatic hyperplasia does follow those statistics, I'm quite sure. I used to work for a laser company that made a laser for treating BPH, so we got to know a bit of the medicine of that ailment.

BPH is when the prostate grows to several times normal size, but the growth is not cancerous. Since the urethra goes right through the middle of the prostate, the growth of the prostate constricts the urethra and the patient can't empty his bladder completely.

I do agree that prostate cancer is a very slow-growing form of cancer, but I'd be surprised to find that the numbers were that high for percentage afflicted.

Didn't the last French president (name escapes me) have advanced prostate cancer for 10 years or so?

As for Robertson, I can understand why some would wish a painful death on him. I think he's a very evil man, and has done far more harm than good. Personally, I just don't care if he lives or dies. I certainly wouldn't mourn his passing.

-Kelly

dangin

Hey Kelly,

I work at a medical center and I recorded a doctor speaking about prostate cancer and he provided these stats. As did a medical student who interned in my office. A man in the audience asked him very forcefully where his data comes from. He said autopsies. If you do an autopsy on a man in his 90s you find prostate cancer. The med student came in and gathered four males in the office who were in their 30s. He said, one of us has prostate cancer.

But, the dying with, not from prostate cancer is the kicker here. nothing to be overly concerned about.

Bumble Bee Tuna

It's not that I want him to die because he contributes little to society...it's because he detracts from it. Greatly. He is a cancer of society. I don't understand why I should care about the life of such an evil person. Yes, I would rather that he change his mind and renounce everything he's ever said- but death isn't a bad option either. Yes, I would be the first to put the bullet in his head, if I knew I could get away with it. That won't happen, though.
I wonder though- How evil does someone have to be, by your standards, for their death to be a good thing? Would you guys have had problems with wishing death upon Hitler? do you have problems with people wishing death upon Bin Laden? Hussein? When is it too much? I think Robertson is well beyond the line. You don't need to kill people to do damage.

-B

HelenM

I don't think most posters here feel that way even though they may intensely dislike Pat Robertson and/or what he's done and/or what he stands for.

And I'm glad they don't.

(I could be wrong about 'most posters', of course)

Helen

wildernesse

I don't think that I have ever wished for the death of another person. For terrorists? Do I wish their deaths? Absolutely not. For people who hurt me? No.

What I wish for is for their change of heart and greater understanding. That is something that I can do more than hope for--I can work towards that.

I also don't know that I can objectively say that anyone detracts from society.

Personally, I find the happy hope for someone's death disturbing. I hope that Pat Robertson has a full, safe recovery and then perfect health. I wish the same for anyone who is ill.

--tibac