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ybnormal · 01-04-2003, 05:56 PM

I have just previously pointed out how Rad has taken one thing I had said some time ago, and followed me around with it, never willing to settle the matter so we could move on to something else of more importance.

For those who have not been following all these related threads, Rad has also been repeatedly taking cheap shots at Toto, our excellent Moderator, for quite some time now... never willing to settle the matter so he and Toto could move on as well. This one is all about the fascinating subject of ellipses. Actually, Rad has been treating Toto like this since Rad first arrived here, but that's for another post.

This below, was taken from the What were the Framers definitions of "Separation"? thread.

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Originally posted by Fred Flintstonensis :
You still have yet to acknowledge that I immediately corrected myself on that point.

You still dishonestly try to hold me to that erroneous statement.

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To which Rad responds:
I acknowledge you corrected yourself, but only because I pointed out how far you stretched the truth and turned one third hand account into "all those people who knew him." If I "misspoke" like that, you guys would fly into a never-ending tizzy. Criminy.

Well hey, it's better than having people insert elipses in your posts and make them look like real quotes, don't you think?

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Originally posted by Toto: (December 24, 2002 04:50 AM)

Here is the complete (Rad's) quote:

I called Washington "enigmatic." It is only Atheist Automatons who could insist the reticent Washington was a deist. Your own definition above precludes him, since he saw the "invisible hand" at work all through the war. I only said that IN MY OPINION after considerable study, I decided he was a Christian who was simply too humble to take communion, but I'm not dogmatic about it. I don't need him to be one nearly as bad as you need him to be a "deist."

In what way am I mischaracterizing you by my ellipsis:

. . . Washington . . . was a Christian who was simply too humble to take communion, but I'm not dogmatic about it.

since I only wished to comment on the "too humble to take communion" nonsense.

Explain your problem with this or drop the subject.

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Originally posted by Radorth: (December 24, 2002 05:24 AM)
Someone puts IN MY OPINION in capital letters and you leave it out?

Just quote the whole of the paragraph and stop editing if you don't mind, and we won't waste anymore bandwidth. It is patently obvious why you would spend more time editing than just using the whole thing.

Four days after Toto told Radorth to Explain your problem with this or drop the subject Rad taunted Toto yet again, fittingly, here on the Some problems with Radorth thread.

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Originally posted by Radorth: December 28, 2002 12:36 AM
I have never once inserted ellipses in a post as Toto did the other day, have I? Which is why I assume he's making a big deal out of it.

Is there really a bible verse about "the patience of Job"?

Radorth · 01-05-2003, 08:44 AM

As usual Yb, you are doing precisely the same thing you claim I am, because you did not quote the reasons for my complaints, and all my responses. Now why are you bringing these up again? Let me guess. Your sole purpose is to destroy my credibility, by dredging up whatever you can from ancient history, and hope i have no answer.

I have many other complaints against Toto, which you failed to mention. Ah yes, poor Toto, the nearly perfect moderator, mercilessly picked on by the big meanie Rad. If I listed all his faults as a moderator I would be kicked off the site, as you know. (I don't bother complaining to II mamagement for obvious reasons)

You might want to learn the meaning of "codependent" before you go much further with this.

Rad

Radorth · 01-05-2003, 08:50 AM

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That is ALL that I contested here. This IS a thread regarding problems with Radorth's debating tactics, not whether some LA gang member gets on his knees for you or not.

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And Rad - do you have any verifiable statistics about Los Angeles gang members changing their ways under some kind of religious tutelage? Given the density of churches in LA, I would expect to see some improvement in the murder rates if that were the case, but they have just gone up.

:banghead:

Rad

Radorth · 01-05-2003, 09:24 AM

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Is there really a bible verse about "the patience of Job"?

Yes, but you've obviously not read Job, which contains the following

"Miserable comforters are you all!" (16:2)

"Why did you set me up for a target?" (7:20)

"....I will give free course to my complaint." (10:1)

And my all time favorite, particularly appropriate here:

"No doubt you are the people, and wisdom will die with you."(12:2)

And these were said to God and his friends.

But few skeptics posting here will understand how a righteous man like Job could speak so. Perhaps because "the spiritual man judges all things but he himself is judged by no one. "

To the spiritually clueless the above is just another "contradiction" I'm sure.

And thank you for another golden opportunity to point out the wisdom of God to those who wish to hear both sides.

Rad

"Behold the goodness and severity of God."

Radorth · 01-05-2003, 09:30 AM

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This IS a thread regarding problems with Radorth's debating tactics, not whether some LA gang member gets on his knees for you or not.

From the one complaining about MY tactics. But I suppose if you quoted me correctly, you would look silly. I understand.

As I say, the biggest complainers are also the biggest offenders. It never fails because we must constantly find in others what we wish to justify in ourselves. And the really big offenders never apologize for anything. Amazing how that works, precisely as Jesus said.

Keep it up Yb, by all means. BTW, are you about 25 years old?

Rad

Radorth · 01-05-2003, 09:36 AM

C.S Lewis on repentance:

"The more you need it, the less you can do it."

I think his insight has well stood the test here.

Rad

Daggah · 01-05-2003, 11:39 AM

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Your sole purpose is to destroy my credibility

You really think you have any left? Wow. You really ARE naive.

Family Man · 01-05-2003, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by Daggah
You really think you have any left? Wow. You really ARE naive.

Especially after he uses the hoary old tactic of questioning someone's age.

Family Man · 01-05-2003, 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by Radorth
C.S Lewis on repentance:

"The more you need it, the less you can do it."

I think his insight has well stood the test here.

Rad

Projecting again, eh Radoth?

Radorth · 01-05-2003, 12:46 PM

The silence is broken, but only by the sounds of insults from the Daggah and Family Man.

Rad

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01-05-2003, 08:44 AM	#152
Radorth Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,872	As usual Yb, you are doing precisely the same thing you claim I am, because you did not quote the reasons for my complaints, and all my responses. Now why are you bringing these up again? Let me guess. Your sole purpose is to destroy my credibility, by dredging up whatever you can from ancient history, and hope i have no answer. I have many other complaints against Toto, which you failed to mention. Ah yes, poor Toto, the nearly perfect moderator, mercilessly picked on by the big meanie Rad. If I listed all his faults as a moderator I would be kicked off the site, as you know. (I don't bother complaining to II mamagement for obvious reasons) You might want to learn the meaning of "codependent" before you go much further with this. Rad

01-05-2003, 09:36 AM	#156
Radorth Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,872	C.S Lewis on repentance: "The more you need it, the less you can do it." I think his insight has well stood the test here. Rad

01-05-2003, 12:46 PM	#160
Radorth Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,872	The silence is broken, but only by the sounds of insults from the Daggah and Family Man. Rad

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