Qinopio

Regarding http://www.vonbora.org/maps.html:

I've seen some people who claim to have found Noah's ark, and this is yet another. I'm wondering if anyone here knows anything about the site, whether there's any dishonesty involved in the data, etc. Thanks.

Spaz

gah, people are so stupid! You don't need to even rule out findings of hugeass boats when the fundamentals of the story are impossible, you can't have a boat of any size that will float on an impossibly flooded planet with every animal on the planet in it, it's just stupid. Even if there was a big boat that would hold all the animals in the area with a regional flood, who cares? It doesn't prove anything about the validity of a global flood...

Kevbo

It looks like they're extrapolating a huge amount of presupposition from a blurry dark spot on a single low-resolution satellite image taken at one angle. Reminds me a little of the "face on Mars" wishful thinking.

Qinopio

The article says that they've actually been there, observed fractures where the edges would be, etc. Neither of the responses thus far are convincing. I know of the great many other problems with the Flood story but I want to know what to say if this particular example is ever brought up. Thanks.

Mageth

I saw nothing in any of those photos or in any of the charts or other information that's the least convincing. A classic case of wishful thinking. A couple of "straight" parallel lines or cracks on a glacier are evidence that the ark lies beneath the glacier? Give me a break. Glaciers typically have such striations. Here's an example:



For one, the weight of a glacier sitting on top of a wooden structure would squash the structure flat.

I would also point out that glaciers move; hence the striations. Any wooden structure underneath or within a glacier would be ground to pieces in a few dozen or at most a few hundreds of years. If the ark was underneath a glacier, it would be scattered all over the glacial field, or piled up in its moraine, and not still be the nice rectangular structure they depict in their charts.

Arken

I wish the people who made these so-called discoveries would do the math and figure out that there is not a chance that two of every unclean animal and seven of every clean animal could possibly fit in anything smaller than the Boeing Aircraft Factory not even taking food and waste into account.

Jimmy Higgins

Thats two and seven pairs. And it is possible if you assume that evolution works at record speeds, requiring only minimal "kinds" of animals before the flood.

Arken

Thanks for the correction. Indeed it is seven pairs. And the record speed evolution is refuted by the standard ridiculous creationist claim "if evolution exists why don't we ever see an animal change into another animal?"