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Jeremy Pallant · 09-25-2002, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amos:
God has no existence of being to humor you but
Divine comedies are humorous. You just don't understand them and probably think that wallowing in mire is funny.

Divine comedies aren't written by god. As for wallowing in mire, that's not one of my hobbies.

09-25-2002, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jeremy Pallant:


Divine comedies aren't written by god.

Of course they are because he who can write one is God.

Jeremy Pallant · 09-25-2002, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amos:
Of course they are because he who can write one is God.

Dante was god?

leonarde · 09-25-2002, 08:25 PM

A few clever/ironic/witty stories/sayings from the
Gospels:

1)luvluv's pick about the "beam in one's own eye"
(humour via exaggeration makes the saying more
memorable).

2)the re-naming of the erratic Simon "Rock/Rocky"
and the play on words in that section between his
new name and the immediately following clause
"upon this rock/stone I will build my church".

3)the parable about the lady who lost a coin and
after searching high and low, finds it and then
throws a party to celebrate (thereby blowing far more money than originally).

4)the saying about how a father if his son asks for a fish won't give him a scorpion.

5)the parable of the two sons who are told to do
some work in the fields: the first says 'sure thing' but then blows it off; the second says "no
way' but relents later.

6)"Let the dead bury the dead!" It's a great trick
if you can do it!

Then in the OT there's a scene in which Sarah is
told that she will have a child in old age. She
thinks that this is hysterical but when God asks
her about her laughter she denies it. That makes
it all the funnier (trying to hide a natural reaction to the absurdity of a very old woman giving birth).

Also the way that Esau's birthright is stolen seems fairly funny too: a weird version of blind
man's bluff.....

Simon Magus · 09-26-2002, 04:01 AM

The evidence that God is All-witty is everywhere you look. Just consider the platypus.
I think the more pertinent question is whether or not God is "All-cheesy" and "All-funky". You do occasionally see some cheese and funk in the natural environs but it would be an extrapolation to impute an All-cheesy entity underlying it.

Laurentius · 09-26-2002, 01:16 PM

Guys, do you really thing your being funny means God is all-witty?

Don't try to make God in your own image - it just won't work. One day he'll have to sin anyway and unveil his true colors: dullness and monomania.

AVE

Jobar · 09-26-2002, 04:46 PM

luvluv:
[b]"It could just as easily mean that wit is not relevant to the specific message of the Bible.

If I wrote a letter to someone saying that they were in immediate danger of doing irrevocable harm to themselves, and that I could help them out of this situation, would it be necessary for me to display in this document that I had a sense of humour?"[b]

But luvluv, you know very well that there are vast numbers of Christians who take the lack of humor in the Bible to mean that levity is a sin!

Tell me, how many times do you think that Mohammed Atta laughed, in the last years of his life? Such humorless fanaticism seems a horribly common result of religious extremism. I think it is the result of putting the fountain of joy and goodness outside of our selves.

Jeremy Pallant · 09-27-2002, 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jobar:
But luvluv, you know very well that there are vast numbers of Christians who take the lack of humor in the Bible to mean that levity is a sin!

I have myself encountered such Christians. Terribly boring people they are too. Hardly a positive advertisement for Christianity.

Laurentius · 09-28-2002, 08:04 AM

And you wouldn't guess...
My best friend is a Protestant missionary.
We've been friends longer than he's been a Christian.

Is he witty?
Highly.
It is a pity though to see how his wit fades away in metaphisical controversies.
Really painful. Bitter.
I wish he had stayed the way he was before.

It looks as if there were no freedom of wit admitted among God's troops.

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DigitalDruid · 09-28-2002, 12:51 PM

I wonder if God's purported omniscience rules out laughing. We laugh at the unexpected (an event,insight, or observation). Say, the boss walks in with shoes hanging around his neck. Now if you are omniscient that won't surprise you, while the rest of us would laugh.

A homorous God boggles my mind in another way too. Since God is purtportedly omniscient, he would know when he is going to laugh *before* he actually laughs! That should rob any impulse to laugh when the time to laugh actually arrives!

What do forum-members think?

[edited for clarity]

[ September 28, 2002: Message edited by: DigitalDruid ]

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DigitalDruid Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 712	I wonder if God's purported omniscience rules out laughing. We laugh at the unexpected (an event,insight, or observation). Say, the boss walks in with shoes hanging around his neck. Now if you are omniscient that won't surprise you, while the rest of us would laugh. A homorous God boggles my mind in another way too. Since God is purtportedly omniscient, he would know when he is going to laugh before he actually laughs! That should rob any impulse to laugh when the time to laugh actually arrives! What do forum-members think? [edited for clarity] [ September 28, 2002: Message edited by: DigitalDruid ]</p>

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09-25-2002, 08:25 PM	#44
leonarde Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: North America Posts: 1,603	A few clever/ironic/witty stories/sayings from the Gospels: 1)luvluv's pick about the "beam in one's own eye" (humour via exaggeration makes the saying more memorable). 2)the re-naming of the erratic Simon "Rock/Rocky" and the play on words in that section between his new name and the immediately following clause "upon this rock/stone I will build my church". 3)the parable about the lady who lost a coin and after searching high and low, finds it and then throws a party to celebrate (thereby blowing far more money than originally). 4)the saying about how a father if his son asks for a fish won't give him a scorpion. 5)the parable of the two sons who are told to do some work in the fields: the first says 'sure thing' but then blows it off; the second says "no way' but relents later. 6)"Let the dead bury the dead!" It's a great trick if you can do it! Then in the OT there's a scene in which Sarah is told that she will have a child in old age. She thinks that this is hysterical but when God asks her about her laughter she denies it. That makes it all the funnier (trying to hide a natural reaction to the absurdity of a very old woman giving birth). Also the way that Esau's birthright is stolen seems fairly funny too: a weird version of blind man's bluff.....

09-26-2002, 04:01 AM	#45
Simon Magus Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 11	The evidence that God is All-witty is everywhere you look. Just consider the platypus. I think the more pertinent question is whether or not God is "All-cheesy" and "All-funky". You do occasionally see some cheese and funk in the natural environs but it would be an extrapolation to impute an All-cheesy entity underlying it.

09-26-2002, 01:16 PM	#46
Laurentius Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lucky Bucky, Oz Posts: 5,645	Guys, do you really thing your being funny means God is all-witty? Don't try to make God in your own image - it just won't work. One day he'll have to sin anyway and unveil his true colors: dullness and monomania. AVE

09-26-2002, 04:46 PM	#47
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	luvluv: [b]"It could just as easily mean that wit is not relevant to the specific message of the Bible. If I wrote a letter to someone saying that they were in immediate danger of doing irrevocable harm to themselves, and that I could help them out of this situation, would it be necessary for me to display in this document that I had a sense of humour?"[b] But luvluv, you know very well that there are vast numbers of Christians who take the lack of humor in the Bible to mean that levity is a sin! Tell me, how many times do you think that Mohammed Atta laughed, in the last years of his life? Such humorless fanaticism seems a horribly common result of religious extremism. I think it is the result of putting the fountain of joy and goodness outside of our selves.

09-28-2002, 08:04 AM	#49
Laurentius Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lucky Bucky, Oz Posts: 5,645	And you wouldn't guess... My best friend is a Protestant missionary. We've been friends longer than he's been a Christian. Is he witty? Highly. It is a pity though to see how his wit fades away in metaphisical controversies. Really painful. Bitter. I wish he had stayed the way he was before. It looks as if there were no freedom of wit admitted among God's troops. <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

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