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Old 06-23-2003, 04:24 PM   #11
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If your friends announced that they planned to commit a rape or a murder, would your reactions have been different? If so, why?
No, I wouldn't have reacted much differently because I'm skeptical and I highly doubt they would do something such as that even if they announced it. However, if they were actually going to commit a crime as serious as that I would have reported it because there is a qualitative difference between taking something and murdering somebody.
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Old 06-23-2003, 04:30 PM   #12
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If your friends announced that they planned to commit a rape or a murder, would your reactions have been different? If so, why?
No, I wouldn't have reacted much differently because I'm skeptical and I highly doubt they would do something such as that even if they announced it. However, if they were actually going to commit a crime as serious as that I would have reported it because there is a qualitative difference between taking something and murdering a human being.
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Old 06-24-2003, 05:00 AM   #13
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I tend to agree with your parents on this one.
Good for you

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If there are people in YOUR house
No it is not MY house it is my dad's house and I did not invite the people over either.

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doing something illegal .
Exactly, THEY were doing something illegal, not me. So why am I in trouble? huh? HUH?

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and you don't say anything, it's wrong.
So you're telling me that my staying out of a criminal situation is wrong?

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Telling them to stop or return it doesn't matter.
If this is true then why should telling my parents that the kids stole something matter?

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In most states parents are liable for actions taken while they are "on watch" so they have a definite right to be concerned that you allowed this behavior in their home
Uh, wouldn't they be allowing illegal action because they were "on watch" using that "logic"? I have a definite right to be concerned that I'm being punished for avoiding a criminal situation.[/B][/QUOTE]
(yes, even if they simply brought the "goods" back to your house) [/B][/QUOTE] Again, It is not MY house.

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How would you feel if you had a little brother who had 2 friends over. The 2 friends decided to steal your best friend's bird (who lives next door). The 2 take it and let it fly away. Your little bro says DONT! DON'T! but they do it anyway. How pissed off would you be if he didn't tell you?
I wouldn't be pissed at my little brother for avoiding a criminal situation and even trying to stop it. I would be pissed at the little kids who stole the bird because THEY STOLE it, not my little brother.

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Imagine searching with your friend for hours and hours while your little bro keeps his mouth shut. sheeesh!
No, that is not what happened in this situation. I reported the kids once I found out people were searching for the stolen item. I didn't just sit there while people were looking for it keeping my mouth shut.

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If that analogy doesn't work for you, just think of the Catholic Church and them "keeping quiet" about all that abuse.
No, the Catholic Church is responsible for their priests. I'm not responsible for some stupid kids that my mother invited over. Oh, and there's a qualitative difference between oh anal raping a little boy and taking something.

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You may not have comitted a crime, but you didn't do the right thing IMO.
I didn't commit the crime, I avoided a criminal situation, I did nothing. So how could I have done something wrong if I didn't do anything.

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Old 06-24-2003, 09:30 AM   #14
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However, if they were actually going to commit a crime as serious as that I would have reported it because there is a qualitative difference between taking something and murdering a human being.
To murder is to take a life, a form of stealing. Yes there is a huge difference in degree.

But the fact is, awareness of a crime give you responsibility. Legally, you are an accessory after the fact, and can be held criminally liable (as an adult).

Now, the situation you described is relatively minor, and I don't think you were necessarily immoral to keep quiet. However, you made the decision to do so, and must therefore take your lumps.

Also, on a side note, your home was purchased by your father - but still it is your home. Every right carries a corresponding responsibility - your right to live at home gives you the responsibility to act appropriately. If thieves are in your house, it is your problem, as well as your father's.
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