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Old 03-16-2002, 05:27 PM   #1
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Angry Arabs say Jews drink Blood

Found this here:

<a href="http://www.memri.org/news.html#1016041265" target="_blank">www.memri.org/news.html#1016041265</a>

In an article published by the Saudi government daily Al-Riyadh,(1) columnist Dr. Umayma Ahmad Al-Jalahma of King Faysal University in Al-Dammam, wrote on "The Jewish Holiday of Purim."

apparently Jews in the festival of Purim kidnap non-Muslim youths and siphon away their blood in a vampiric manner with great pleasure. then the rabbis bake the blood into pastries and everyone eats of them.
Just reading the article is enough to make you really

I have two questions:
How reliable is this memri?
If it is reliable, then how can a professor at an university write such stuff and how can the government publish it?

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I heard about this too. The thing we have to keep in mind is that the Middle East is still about 150 years behind the west.

As little as 75 years ago in this country the same rumor could have easily spread to bigoted protestants. it took WWII to create a environment of acceptance for Jews in the West.

While the statement is sickening and makes me want to scream I do understand why and how these rumors proliferate.
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Well it is saudi arabia who can publish what they like with no opposition. I don't believe a word of it. Did you scroll down the page a bit till you saw the discussion sept 11th?? Now that's the scary stomach turning part......

September 11 Restored Arab and Islamic Glory

September 11 Proves Muslim Superiority Over the West

Wish we had a puke graemlin......
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Originally posted by idaho:
<strong>I heard about this too. The thing we have to keep in mind is that the Middle East is still about 150 years behind the west.

As little as 75 years ago in this country the same rumor could have easily spread to bigoted protestants. it took WWII to create a environment of acceptance for Jews in the West.

While the statement is sickening and makes me want to scream I do understand why and how these rumors proliferate.</strong>
Well, the 'why' is that they want rid of Israel and the 'how' is government-sponsored propaganda in this case.....but I think you are implying more than that. Could you elaborate a bit?
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Old 03-17-2002, 08:46 AM   #5
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This is a version of the "Blood Libel", whose original form states that Jews liked to kill non-Jewish babies to get their blood to put into Matzohs; unleavened bread for Passover.

The Blood Libel has been around for centuries in eastern Europe; Bertrand Russell wrote half a century ago that he had known anti-Bolshevik Russian refugees who were convinced of its truth, and not surprisingly, that many Nazis accepted it without question.
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This lie has been around Europe since the Middle Ages. Whats really humorous, is that for meat to be kosher, all blood must be drained and buried with proper rituals. I think you could judge this "unreliable".
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Of course, Xtians drink the blood of Jesus and eat his flesh , but that's another topic about cannablistic religions.

I'm sure this story is tripe
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Well, the 'why' is that they want rid of Israel and the 'how' is government-sponsored propaganda in this case.....but I think you are implying more than that. Could you elaborate a bit?</strong>
Why these rumors proliferate is because the people are so eager to belive them.

In Reconstruction America you had many rumors spread about black men simply to remain in control of the population. It was widely believed that black men were sex fiends driven to the point of lunacy in attempt to satisfy their carnal urges. If you ever see Birth of a Nation you will see this rumor played out to its full effect.

How is simple. It is in the best interest of the government and its religious leaderhip to allow these rumors to spread and be believed. Religion has used fear to control the population since its inception. Here in America we do the same thing. Falwell and RObertson claiming that gays and secularist are responsible for Gods wrath. All fear tactics used to control the people and push them towards continued hostility against the infidels.
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<strong>Well it is saudi arabia who can publish what they like with no opposition. I don't believe a word of it. Did you scroll down the page a bit till you saw the discussion sept 11th?? Now that's the scary stomach turning part......

September 11 Restored Arab and Islamic Glory

September 11 Proves Muslim Superiority Over the West

Wish we had a puke graemlin......</strong>
Yes, but you are not the target audience. the ordianry muslims in all countries, brimming over with prejudice and ignorance are.

Again, doesnot a university and government have more responnsibility than this?
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The most worrisome thing about the muslim community is that the majority simply doesnot want to believe that memebers of their community would ever do anything evil. They would eagerly believe anything bad about their opponents, but not about their own.
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