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Toto · 03-05-2003, 10:29 AM

Two Washington state lawmakers walk out during prayer by Muslim religious leader

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McMahan said she did not oppose having a Muslim deliver the prayer but left because "the religion is the focal point of the hate-America sentiment in the world."

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In his prayer, Joban opened the session "in the name of Allah, the one God of Abraham, God of Moses, God of Jesus, and God of Mohammed, peace be upon them all."

He asked for blessings for the state of Washington and guidance for legislators.

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"It makes me embarrassed to know that some of our legislators can't even treat someone with that common respect," [Kathy Erlandson, director of Associated Ministries of Thurston County] said. "He's an American citizen and he's praying for their work, then how can it be an act of patriotism to walk away?"

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Once again, nothing fails like prayer.

hezekiah jones · 03-05-2003, 10:35 AM

"Republicans Lois McMahan ... and Cary Condotta ..."

What a surprise.

Ab_Normal · 03-05-2003, 10:40 AM

I am soooo embarrassed... at least I don't live in either of their districts (Gig Harbor and East Wenatchee).

edited to add some substance: Article in this morning's paper said that their party boss chastised them both.

eldar1011 · 03-05-2003, 10:43 AM

Don't know why they were so bothered by an Islamic prayer.

It's just ceremonial deism, right?

Autonemesis · 03-05-2003, 10:46 AM

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McMahan said ... "Even though the mainstream Islamic religion doesn't profess to hate America, nonetheless it spawns the groups that hate America."

"Even though the mainstream Christian religion doesn't profess to hate blacks, or gays, or women, nontheless it spawns the groups that hate blacks, gays, and women."

Feather · 03-05-2003, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by eldar1011
Don't know why they were so bothered by an Islamic prayer.

It's just ceremonial deism, right?

Yeah, that's the ticket. We'll go with that one. :banghead: :banghead:

Grumpy · 03-05-2003, 02:16 PM

I read today that McMahan profusely apologized "to anyone who may have been offended." And the Republican Party has sternly lectured her, as well.

ajm51987 · 03-05-2003, 02:59 PM

I dont live in those districts either. But I am still disgusted by it.

Corgan Sow · 03-06-2003, 07:55 AM

Oh well, that is just a PERFECT excuse for Secularists to walk out from public prayer...

MortalWombat · 03-06-2003, 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by Grumpy
And the Republican Party has sternly lectured her, as well.

The question is, did are they upset with her because they feel her actions were wrong, or because she publicly stated what they feel privately, but don't want to let other people know they feel that way?

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03-05-2003, 10:35 AM	#2
hezekiah jones Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: WI Posts: 4,357	"Republicans Lois McMahan ... and Cary Condotta ..." What a surprise.

03-05-2003, 10:40 AM	#3
Ab_Normal Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,842	I am soooo embarrassed... at least I don't live in either of their districts (Gig Harbor and East Wenatchee). edited to add some substance: Article in this morning's paper said that their party boss chastised them both.

03-05-2003, 10:43 AM	#4
eldar1011 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,074	Don't know why they were so bothered by an Islamic prayer. It's just ceremonial deism, right?

03-05-2003, 02:16 PM	#7
Grumpy Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,535	I read today that McMahan profusely apologized "to anyone who may have been offended." And the Republican Party has sternly lectured her, as well.

03-05-2003, 02:59 PM	#8
ajm51987 Regular Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seattle, USA Posts: 245	I dont live in those districts either. But I am still disgusted by it.

03-06-2003, 07:55 AM	#9
Corgan Sow Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 1,537	Oh well, that is just a PERFECT excuse for Secularists to walk out from public prayer...

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