ps418

What a wonderful idea, Hyzer!

I'm glad to hear that it is sometimes easy. How about a demonstration of this ability? Pretty please? You can ask for any information you need. I would let you use me as a test subject, but I already told you my birthday.

Any volunteers? Of course, the volunteer would have to divulge their birthday to a third party before we begin, to keep things honest. I can't wait.

Patrick

Volker.Doormann

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ps418

hyzer has ask:" Can you prepare charts for someone who does not know their exact time of birth ?".

Ask your mother. She know's the time. If not. It is filed. Thank you and Good Night.

Wyz_sub10

I don't understand, Volker. I've been reading the thread from the beginning and while you stand in support of astrology, you do not seem to want to accept any challenges to validate it.

You almost seem offended by the fact that someone would require proof of your claims in order to accept them.

How about you suggest a test that would help validate the science of astrology. We can get input as to the parameters of the test. Then we can apply it.

How does that sound to you?

Volker.Doormann

No, Thank you. Please check, what i have written is this thread. Mayby you do not have read, what I have written today in this thread:

"If you have followed this thread and checked, then you can recognize, that that, what I have presented on astrological interpretations was right. I do name here the terms 'missed father', 'cut relationships', 'Tourettte's syndrom' , all provable data to measure significance."

Astrology is not a game, its a weapon. The personal Character of a human is to be respected as private and not a subject of discussion boards in the public. I have given several times the advice to read an interpretation made by an astrologer or by an astrology service to decide your self about its relevance. AFAIK you can read a short discription of your chart for free on http://www.astro.com/h/index_e.htm?l...nc-u1049477315, but a paid detailed description is best to comperate the text with own imagination of the self.

Volker

Volker.Doormann

hyzer

Somewhere on the ‘net I read a tome (well, a thorough debunking) of astrology that included calculations that showed that the gravitational pull exerted by the average 180 lbs obstetrician on a baby at the moment of birth is greater than the gravitational pull exerted by any planet in our solar system other than Earth. Wish I could find it.

Volker - you say it is not gravity but some unknown force? How do you measure it?

Volker.Doormann

I have no knowledge about the cause. There are these aspects of the planets and these 12 houses and some 1000 other symbols to find to know a character. What is the cause of superconductivity? Sure, in a temperature range you can find superconductivity. But it is true, the the phenomen of superconductivty itself does not need a force. It is of no use to argue, that superconductivity or superfluidity can not exist, because there is no force. There is the phenomen and its order, and you can search for a physical explanation. No one ask for a force, why one is an una bomber or Saddam Hussein. What is the force, that John Bach was able to write sounds. What is the force, of that music?

If a character of a human is not a hoax, then this charcater is a real part of nature. You do not can bring back the character of your son , if this is not matching your imaginations.

Science has rejected the order of spiritual qualities, and I think this is an error. The same causality as in physics is to be recognize in spirtual actions from a character. Astrology is the only science, which is able to handle such order. How science can solve a character of Sadam Hussein with quantum mechanics?

Science is isolated from ethics and spirtual qualities. As light has a phase, an energy, an amplitude and a polarization, natur has a physical part and a spirtual part. If one is rejecting the property of amplitude of light, this lacks in understanding the nature of light. And if one is rejecting the spirtual part of nature, which scientists proceed each evening at home, then this lacks in the understanding of nature too. That spirtuality is not to prove with Popper is not the problem of nature, it is the problem of the bondage to Popper. Because spirituality is only to recognize, but not can be proved, doesn't mean, that each spiritual argument must be put in the can. He who can recognize the truth is free from proof. And dimensions like justice or love is not a dimension in physics. Physicists or scientist are not competent to announce ethical claims. They are handcapped by their 4 forces and know nothing about spiritual causal orders. Least of all they have no knowledge about their causal 'where from' or their own self. From this nothing they claim the power to rule the world.

Volker

Wyz_sub10

Yes, I read everything in this thread, because that is what moderators do.

This sounds like an excuse on your part.

An interpretation made by the individual defeats the purpose. People can find meaning (or take issue with) anything they are told about their character. There is nothing scientific about the what you are asking people to do.

What I am proposing is developing a way to demonstrate the science you say is associated with astrology.

echidna

Volker, a painfully simple request.

Please provide some specific predictions of imminent events which we can scientifically validate (since you are claiming astrology is scientific). Surely you are aware how much damage your ongoing failure does to your claim ?

Volker.Doormann

If you do practize this, this doesn't mean, that people with an other consciousness, don't take.

That's the difference between arrogant science claims and an individual recognition. Your claim has no scientific base, it is trash. Show me, by proof, that your scientific claim is absolute true.

Volker