Autonemesis

Prove Zeus doesn't exist. Magus, you're almost as atheistic as the rest of us - admit it. We just believe in one less god than you, that's all. If only you'd pray with a open heart, you'd find that Zoroaster would enter your life and make you whole. You can't prove that he won't!

I thought you said before that Heaven was our home. Which is it, a gift or our home? Get your story straight.

Mageth

Archaeologists have also found the sites where Jesus performed his miracles,

So? They've also found Troy; are the accounts of the gods' actions reported to have happened at the little battle there then true?

the supposed boat where Jesus appointed a couple of the apostles,

Not. They've found the remains of a boat from the period, but there's nothing to indicate that it's the boat.

and historical claims that match those of the NT.

Huh? So the NT writers got a few historical facts correct; there's many others reported in the NT that aren't substantiated outside the Bible.

The apostles also described the Crucifiction as it happened and how it happened from personal testimony.

Interesting, since the apostles weren't described as actually witnessing the crucifixion, and didn't write the gospels (they were all more than likely second-hand accounts written decades after the reported events).

Common sense tells you if they were right about every thing we have proven about the Bible through science and archaeology, its not farfetched to accept that they were telling the truth about the supernatural parts, especially since they ended dying for it.

Actually, common sense does nothing of the sort. Ancient literature (actually, literature from all ages) includes many works that are a mix of historical truth and "supernatural" parts.

Lobstrosity

So does common sense tell you that since some of the Iliad has been historically confirmed (specifically it's been recently discovered that Troy isn't mythical but actually existed) that we must assume that the supernatural parts are true as well. Well gee, it looks like we proved that the Greek gods really do exist!

Autonemesis

Well then perhaps you should take that as a clue about how repulsive the expression of your ideology really is to thinking people, if they'd prefer it to whatever place where you and your kind are going.

Autonemesis

If you have to add the qualifying phrase "to us" then it isn't evidence. It's opinion. Scientific evidence is just evidence, not "evidence to us" or "evidence to Steven Hawking."

lpetrich

Except that evolution does not have such a well-defined "direction"; evolution can sometimes go "backwards".

Thus, fish -> land vertebrates -> cetaceans, with their fishlike shape

lpetrich

And would a completely benevolent entity create such a place? Seriously.

Treacle Worshipper

Yes, Magus55 consistently spells "crucifixion" as "crucifiction". I am pretty much convinced that he's a troll. Magus, if you're not a troll, perhaps you ought to learn to spell one of the major events in your religion correctly? Just a suggestion.
TW

CALDONIA

Magus55,

How is it that us "hateful atheists" don't have our own Hell into which we send Christian souls? Is it that the whole concept of Hell is based on resentment, guilt, hatred, vengeance?

The Loving, loving Christian God to Man: "I love you. Do you love me?

Man: "Well, I do not know."

God: "Well, if you do not love Me, you will burn for eternity in the Lake of Fire!"

Man: "I love you! I love you! I love you!"

Fiach

And yes it is not a joking matter. I once spent a week in Philadelphia in the USA. But like Jesus, I returned from that Hell. And there is no way I will go back there.

Fiach