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Mediancat · 02-12-2003, 10:51 AM

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Originally posted by atheist_in_foxhole
In case you haven't noticed, Gemma's m.o. is to make a sarcastic remark like "Oh please" or "I pity you" and then post a picture of a dead saint or two. Then she'll tell you to read Summa Theologica for the fiftieth time.

Oh, I'd noticed. (I've mentioned to her that I've actually read the Summa Theologica, and have yet to receive a response on THAT quarter.) I just figured I'd give her a chance to explain why she feels the "please" is such a devastating refutation.

Hey. anything's possible.

Rob aka Mediancat

christ-on-a-stick · 02-12-2003, 12:46 PM

Gemma,

Please, what?!?!?!?!

Your one-liners are getting really tired. If you have anything substantive to say in response to my post, please do. Otherwise (self-edit, Lauri. self-edit...... deep breath. Whew!)

Gooch's dad · 02-12-2003, 12:52 PM

Wow, a whole day went by with nobody catching my gaffe...

I really should have voted for creationism as the worst theistic position--since I stated that ID really is creationism, I can't exactly call it 'other', can I?

Oh, well. Mea culpa and all that.

-Kelly

Shake · 02-12-2003, 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by christ-on-a-stick
If I absolutely HAD to pick one.. and I reserve the right to change my mind (woman's perogative dontcha know ) - it would be #2, the Catholic Church's opposition to birth control.

My reasoning:

Although I find the "Faith-Based Initiative" repugnant and blatantly unconstitutional, I harbor hope that either A) it will be found to be so or B) it will be done away with my a future (hopfully SOON!) administration.

Similarly, while the fact that even the *idea*of creationism being taught in schools in this day and age absolutely boggles my mind, I think that it will eventually go the way of the dinosaur. (HA!) I think the cretinists are fighting a losing battle against science.

HOWEVER.... the deeply corrupt and ethically indefensible institution that some people like to call The Roman Catholic Church still, in the year 2003, has a virtual stranglehold on millions the world over, many of whom are living in poverty, ignorance and with no access to information that might free them from their current position of being intimidated and cowed into unfettered reproduction by a "moral authority" that threatens them with hellfire and damnation.

As a direct result of this, hundreds of thousands of children are born into abject poverty and (often brief) lives of unbelievable suffering.

A Benevolent God's "Master Plan"? I think not.

Exactly! There are probably other things I could have come up with had I given it much more thought, but this one really is good. I just read something the other day how this Ethiopian (sp?) village has filled 3 graveyards in the last two years with the bodies of children! It's bad enough that these kids die from stupid things that might cause you or I just to miss a day of work/school, but you've also got to think of the mothers whose lives are probably shortened due to the stresses and strains of child-bearing and birth. Overpopulation is a huge problem in that area of the world, and especially with AIDS running rampant there too. The article said that during the height of one drought, this one area was losing a child a DAY! That's just ridiculous.

Still another reason why I hate the Catholic Church.

The Naked Mage · 02-12-2003, 01:14 PM

I think Gemma's trying to say, "I'm stupid, PLEASE chloroform me, put me in a steamer trunk, and mail me back to the Vatican".

christ-on-a-stick · 02-12-2003, 01:36 PM

ROFL Naked Mage!!!

Thanks for making me laugh to alleviate some of the pain caused by the reflexive head-banging.

Yellum Notnef · 02-12-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by christ-on-a-stick
ROFL Naked Mage!!!

Thanks for making me laugh to alleviate some of the pain caused by the reflexive head-banging.

Ditto!

Sephiroth · 02-12-2003, 08:36 PM

Catholic Church's opposition to birth control

People in poorer/overpopulated countries are dying because of this moronic stance. *sigh* Just how stubborn can the church get?

Amie · 02-12-2003, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by The Naked Mage
I think Gemma's trying to say, "I'm stupid, PLEASE chloroform me, put me in a steamer trunk, and mail me back to the Vatican".

Gemma just consider the source...

oriecat · 02-12-2003, 09:14 PM

I put Other. What I find most disturbing is this trend we are seeing with the fundies, claiming that GW was sent from God to do his bidding, so nothing he does is questioned. I guess this isn't a specific political objective, other than the entire Religious Right objective and how they are working to bring us into the Dark Ages of religious oppression.

Really just anything to do with that fuckwad of a President!

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"Faith-Based Initative"	6	6.06%
Catholic Church's opposition to birth control	17	17.17%
Creationism in public school	68	68.69%
Other (please explain)	8	8.08%
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02-12-2003, 12:46 PM	#22
christ-on-a-stick Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Durango, Colorado Posts: 7,116	Gemma, Please, what?!?!?!?! Your one-liners are getting really tired. If you have anything substantive to say in response to my post, please do. Otherwise (self-edit, Lauri. self-edit...... deep breath. Whew!)

02-12-2003, 12:52 PM	#23
Gooch's dad Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Madison WI USA Posts: 3,508	Wow, a whole day went by with nobody catching my gaffe... I really should have voted for creationism as the worst theistic position--since I stated that ID really is creationism, I can't exactly call it 'other', can I? Oh, well. Mea culpa and all that. -Kelly

02-12-2003, 01:14 PM	#25
The Naked Mage Veteran Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Execution State, USA Posts: 5,031	I think Gemma's trying to say, "I'm stupid, PLEASE chloroform me, put me in a steamer trunk, and mail me back to the Vatican".

02-12-2003, 01:36 PM	#26
christ-on-a-stick Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Durango, Colorado Posts: 7,116	ROFL Naked Mage!!! Thanks for making me laugh to alleviate some of the pain caused by the reflexive head-banging.

02-12-2003, 08:36 PM	#28
Sephiroth Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 625	Catholic Church's opposition to birth control People in poorer/overpopulated countries are dying because of this moronic stance. sigh Just how stubborn can the church get?

02-12-2003, 09:14 PM	#30
oriecat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland OR USA Posts: 1,098	I put Other. What I find most disturbing is this trend we are seeing with the fundies, claiming that GW was sent from God to do his bidding, so nothing he does is questioned. I guess this isn't a specific political objective, other than the entire Religious Right objective and how they are working to bring us into the Dark Ages of religious oppression. Really just anything to do with that fuckwad of a President!

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