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Just Another Infidel · 03-23-2003, 12:00 PM

I'm at a loss for words about this.

The Presidential Prayer Team

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Pray for the military leaders, soldiers and equipment involved now in "Operation Iraqi Freedom." Pray that the war in Iraq will conclude with minimal loss of life at the earliest possible moment.

Pray for the thousands of government personnel involved in Homeland Security's "Operation Liberty Shield" now that the national threat level has been raised to Level Orange. With increased security at borders, airports, ports, military facilities, bridges, dams and power generating facilities, pray that those efforts will be successful, eliminating attacks on American soil.

Pray that extremists will not use this time to carry out attacks against the U.S. in any way--at home or abroad. Pray for God's mighty hand of protection to guard and keep our nation and her citizens in the coming days.

Pray for the United States Supreme Court as they consider the case of Lawrence v. Texas on March 26, 2003. The case involves the right of the state of Texas to declare that certain acts are indeed immoral. Pray that they will have wisdom in their ruling, upholding the values our country was founded upon.

Pray for the families of the soldiers currently deployed in the Persian Gulf. Pray that they will have the comfort and support they need, and that families will have the ability to stay connected in spite of the conflict. To specifically pray for one soldier and his or her family, please click here.

JAI

Zimyatin · 03-23-2003, 12:02 PM

Isn't it fan-tas-tic that they grouped sodomy with this illegitimate war? Oh to be a fundie.

Toto · 03-23-2003, 12:18 PM

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Then came the "long" prayer. None could remember the like of it for passionate pleading and moving and beautiful language. The burden of its supplication was that an ever--merciful and benignant Father of us all would watch over our noble young soldiers and aid, comfort, and encourage them in their patriotic work; bless them, shield them in His mighty hand, make them strong and confident, invincible in the bloody onset; help them to crush the foe, grant to them and to their flag and country imperishable honor and glory -

An aged stranger entered and moved with slow and noiseless step up the main aisle, his eyes fixed upon the minister, his long body clothed in a robe that reached to his feet, his head bare, his white hair descending in a frothy cataract to his shoulders, his seamy face unnaturally pale, pale even to ghastliness. With all eyes following him and wondering, he made his silent way; without pausing, he ascended to the preacher's side and stood there, waiting.

With shut lids the preacher, unconscious of his presence, continued his moving prayer, and at last finished it with the words, uttered in fervent appeal,"Bless our arms, grant us the victory, O Lord our God, Father and Protector of our land and flag!"

The stranger touched his arm, motioned him to step aside -- which the startled minister did -- and took his place. During some moments he surveyed the spellbound audience with solemn eyes in which burned an uncanny light; then in a deep voice he said

"I come from the Throne-bearing a message from Almighty God!" The words smote the house with a shock; if the stranger perceived it he gave no attention. "He has heard the prayer of His servant your shepherd and grant it if such shall be your desire after I, His messenger, shall have explained to you its import-that is to say, its full import. For it is like unto many of the prayers of men, in that it asks for more than he who utters it is aware of-except he pause and think.

"God's servant and yours has prayed his prayer. Has he paused and taken thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two- one uttered, the other not. Both have reached the ear of His Who hearth all supplications, the spoken and the unspoken. Ponder this-keep it in mind. If you beseech a blessing upon yourself, beware! lest without intent you invoke a curse upon a neighbor at the same time. If you pray for the blessing of rain upon your crop which needs it, by that act you are possibly praying for a curse upon some neighbor's crop which may not need rain and can be injured by it.

"You have heard your servant's prayer-the uttered part of it. I am commissioned by God to put into words the other part of it-that part which the pastor, and also you in your hearts, fervently prayed silently. And ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant that it was so! You heard these words: 'Grant us the victory, O Lord our God!' That is sufficient. The whole of the uttered prayer is compact into those pregnant words. Elaborations were not necessary. When you have prayed for victory you have prayed for many unmentioned results which follow victory-must follow it, cannot help but follow it. Upon the listening spirit of God the Father fell also the unspoken part of the prayer. He commandeth me to put it into words. Listen!

"O Lord our Father, our young patriots, idols of our hearts, go forth to battle-be Thou near them! With them, in spirit, we also go forth from the sweet peace of our beloved firesides to smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it-for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.

(After a pause)

"Ye have prayed it; if ye still desire it, speak! The messenger of the Most High waits."

It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said.

Mark Twain

Mecha_Dude · 03-23-2003, 12:19 PM

JESUS FUCKING TAP-DANCING CHRIST!!!
people like that scare me...

gilly54 · 03-23-2003, 12:41 PM

From the Q&A:

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Did the President start this effort? The current President supports and welcomes our prayer effort, however he did not start it and his specific endorsement or commissioning is not desired due to inherent constitutional issues . The Presidential Prayer Team gains no financial support from the government or any agency of the government.

The President supports and welcomes their effort, yet this is not an endorsement?

I couldn't find any guest book and I didn't expect to. You have to be a member to send an e-mail.

They state that it will cost $6 million to run this thing.

I wonder if they are going to apply for money under Bush's Faith Based Initiative. After all, they are providing a vital, spiritual service...

enigma555 · 03-23-2003, 05:46 PM

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War

Terrorism

Terrorism

Sodomy

War

Which one of these things is not like the others?

[fundie on]

Pray for a better president

[/fundie on]

Toto · 03-24-2003, 02:39 PM

Wash Post article

lists another site: www.prayforourpresident.com which uses the Presidential Seal.

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Protect all Christians in the Middle East, Lord, that they may be free from persecution and may continue to share the love of Jesus Christ with those who have not heard the Gospel. We offer these prayers with grateful praise in the name of our Saviour, Jesus Christ. Amen.

Philosoft · 03-24-2003, 02:47 PM

When did it become the task of the government to legislate legality based entirely on morality? "This behavior is immoral," as a legal argument is laughable. The State of Texas had better hope their lawyers have something more compelling.

GaryP · 03-30-2003, 08:46 AM

The whitehouse.org site's satirical transcript of the prayer team meeting;

As you know, our righteous Crusade against Islamia has now entered its third day, and so this morning, as nearly a dozen innocent American soldiers march toward their senseless and untimely afternoon deaths, let us all take a moment to raise up our passion fruit mimosas in a jubilant toast to Jesus!

http://whitehouse.org/news/2003/032303.asp

Shake · 03-31-2003, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Toto
Wash Post article

lists another site: www.prayforourpresident.com which uses the Presidential Seal.

These things are just ridiculous! I guess these types of folks weren't around earlier (even just a mere 20-30 years ago), otherwise Kennedy and Reagan would've been protected from assassination attempts.

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03-23-2003, 12:02 PM	#2
Zimyatin Regular Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 308	Isn't it fan-tas-tic that they grouped sodomy with this illegitimate war? Oh to be a fundie.

03-23-2003, 12:19 PM	#4
Mecha_Dude Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Everywhere... I'm Watching you... Posts: 1,019	JESUS FUCKING TAP-DANCING CHRIST!!! people like that scare me...

03-24-2003, 02:47 PM	#8
Philosoft Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast of disorder Posts: 6,829	When did it become the task of the government to legislate legality based entirely on morality? "This behavior is immoral," as a legal argument is laughable. The State of Texas had better hope their lawyers have something more compelling.

03-30-2003, 08:46 AM	#9
GaryP Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Lancaster, OH Posts: 1,792	The whitehouse.org site's satirical transcript of the prayer team meeting; As you know, our righteous Crusade against Islamia has now entered its third day, and so this morning, as nearly a dozen innocent American soldiers march toward their senseless and untimely afternoon deaths, let us all take a moment to raise up our passion fruit mimosas in a jubilant toast to Jesus! http://whitehouse.org/news/2003/032303.asp

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