Amos

Catholicism is a mystery religion and the Mystery of Faith is known to the designers of the faith. The end of Catholicism is the understanding of this mystery.

So don't ask the Pope to tell the truth because that would be like asking him to throw out the baby with the bathwater.

As a layman I can explain to you the secret behind this mystery because you don't believe me anyway. I can lean on Shakespeare and all the Romantics because the unfolding of this mystery is always their deep structure theme--which is why they are Romantics.

So the official stand of the Church will be that the intergrity of Catholicsm is wounded by the ordination of female priests and I agree with this but in addition told you the reason behind this position.

The problem with witches and witchcraft is the same as it is with reincarnation. Reincarnation means that we are the incarnate sons and daughters of our parents and therefore also the reincarnate son and daughters of our grand- and great-grandparents for up to one thousand years. This must be true because the "One Thousand Year Reign" is within our own mind and this we do not know until the complete convergence of our twian mind wherein is contained the One Thousand Year Reign.

Bible Humper

BTW Amos, is there a particular name for your interpretation of theology? Are there many others who share your views, or is it in many respects unique?

Thanks.

Hehe, you better hope that Gemma Therese isn't still keeping track of this thread!

Amos

You are confused because you don't read well and arrive at a conclusion which is just opposite to what I wrote.

The penis is the cause of the twain mind and not the link to the twain mind (the twain mind is wherein we are divided). I sort of wrote that in our modern gender society the opposite between these two minds is reduced with the undesired consequence that also the penis is both nihilated and annihilated.

Men do not value the penis but the penis is created and born out of the controversy with its counterpart. The penis is actually a liability for men.

Sorry if I misled you here.

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Amos

I liked what I read of Gemma Therese. I hope she comes back.

My interpretation is not unique and I would argue that it is universal in all literature from around the world (except the Earl Birney and Gatsby kind ). From my perspective all mythologies are transparent and can be mixed to explain the points made in each religion.

sullster

Yo! Amos, I am back from two weeks away and have not read this entire thread at all but I did read your views on the penis.

You are the very first theologian to express views on the penis. Actually I do value my penis as it does have two very good uses and it is not a liablity except when it does not function during those same two functions. I know, I am not following your insights and interpretations here, but I just had to make a comment.

Finally, I do think that catholics,(the funny hated rulers of your church), view women as worse than pedophiles. The local cardinal in Boston, you may have heard of him-Cardinal Lawless, once kicked out a nun for baptising an infant. He protected child raping priests, who are welcome to all the sacrements of the church, mind you.

Did not your medevil catholic church say that women had no souls? Women were the devil's seed or something like that. Hey, what the heck. A child raping male priest is obviously better than a souless woman. Right, Amos? Consistent Catholic Theology. Dogma

Well, Amos, I guess it is better to touch a little penis than to not have one. Good Catholic Theology.

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Amos

That "penis power" the girls talked about is really misconstrued because it is the church's body (the woman as per Gen.3:6) that must charm and attract the priest into the pulpit (pussy power instead of penis power) from where he speaks to the the soul of man (woman) and they in turn draw from him what they desire and need at the time.

Does that make sense to you?

brighid

Of course you can!

Brighid

Cipher Girl

Thanks Brighid, Wicked Wanda is really excited. She just loves to show off her hailstorms.

Amos, I , like most people, tend to take most words at face value. You, however, seem fit to change the meanings of your words from post to post. I think that it not the reader's comprehension but your writing style which contributes to the confusion.

Amos, with enough rationalization and reassigning the meaning of common words anything is possible. How about:

"Wicked Wanda is really the female soul of the church desperate to break out of the bonds of male penile oppression. Female priests are the only way to restore balance in the church. Without them, the church is only half a church, with only the male half represented."

and

"The Batman and Robin comic perfectly expresses the priest/altar boy relationship. Batman's secret longing for Robin, the privacy of the Batcave, the special clothes, all represent the "special love and attention" some priests have felt for the children in their congregations."

Heh Heh Heh Ha Ha Ha Ha. BTW, I really don't believe in the above crapola. Just an example of: just because I can write it, doesn't make it true or even likely.

BTW, isn't it interesting that Amos is the one using the witch example from Macbeth as an example of witches. Then he complains the subject of women priests would cause women to start talking about witches.

Oh and
Why the correct term "penis" for the male organ, and the slang term "pussy" for the female organ? Amos, should I read more into this? That you harbor an underlying resentment towards women? I can continue on in this vein for some time if you want. I'm sure you mean't nothing by it, but hey, I can read lots in your words. And come up with all kinds of explanations of the significance of the wording.

How about some more opinions from other Catholics here? Amos is pretty far out there.

Well enough rambling for one night.

[Edited for spelling and some small wording fixes.]

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yahwehyadayada

What a, ahem, penetrating observation, Cipher Girl. Were you Sigmund Freud in another life?

DMB

Catholics for a Free Choice have a lot to say about this issue in their <a href="http://www.cath4choice.org/indexconscience.htm" target="_blank">latest edition of Conscience</a>, their newsletter.