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Old 01-19-2003, 08:59 AM   #11
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Religion is all about control, nothing more and nothing less! Those who don't conform are either humiliated, persecuted or destroyed. The degree of this varies depending on country or faith but the pattern is always the same.
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Religion is all about control, nothing more and nothing less! Those who don't conform are either humiliated, persecuted or destroyed. The degree of this varies depending on country or faith but the pattern is always the same.
Yeah, and for some reason women always seem to get the short end of the stick. All the lawmakers have been male.
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I think that Osama Bin Laden, Mullah Muhammad Omar, Hesbollah, the homicidal fanatics in Kashmir ARE the TRUE Muslims. They are following their psychotic Qur'an and Haddith...
OK, let's begin by citing that part of the Q'ran which dictates capital punishment for women who do not wear the burquah. For the second part of your homework, please discuss the historical background of Islam in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Pakistan, and the consequent doctrinal differences between those countries.
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yes, all good muslims know Allah is so terrfied of bare-faced women that he orders his male followers to kill them. in fact, allah seems so afraid of women that he orders his followers to oppress them generally, as well.

my my, seems like Allah and the christian God share a lot in common......

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YHWH was a supreme cosmic killer God. Allah is a viscious, sadistic killer God. Trinity God is perhaps a tad better because he produced a son out of wedlock, Jesus who was a decent bloke.

But the world would be much better off if Moses fell off the mountain and died. And just to be sure, Muhammad died of venereal disease before he conquered Arabia, and Paul was sent to a psychiatrist and treated with Thorazine. Think of all the murdered children, innocnt young women, who may have lived long and happy lives.

Religion is the equivalent of a computer virus of the brain. It fecks up the circuits and turns off neurons. It blurs the margins of good and evil. It makes evil not something absolutely evil but only evil if God says it is evil. When God changes his mind, the murder of babies which was once acceptable and commendable, now is out of style.

So as to not insult all religious people let me qualify that to separate religions into positive and negative religions. Positive religions such a Neopaganism, Wiccca, Unitarian-Universalism, Bahai, most forms of Buddhism. They are rarely violent and hateful. The Negative religions are Judaism, Islam, and Christianity which are basically evil. They promote terrible atrocities like the crusades, witch burnings, inquisitions, letting little girls burn to death in a school house out of their despicably evil Islamic insanity, and Judaism with the documented atrocities of the Old Testament.

As American John Adams said "it would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it." Adams was the 2nd US President.

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Hindu womyn,

I understand your disdain for islam...but I fail to understand why you fail to see the brutality of the Hindu religion.

Don't get me wrong, you probably felt this way about the hindu religion, it's just that all your post have been concentrated on Islam.

I once read an article about the rape of "untouchables" or lower caste, and the indifference of the Indian authorities on cnn.com. I guess they are only untouchables during the day time.
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What the world needs is a millionaire who can show the world's contempt for this sort of thing by airdropping tons of blasphemous pamphlets and pornographic magazines.
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<<As American John Adams said "it would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it." Adams was the 2nd US President.>>

It would be nice if that were a clear, unequivocal stand alone quote, but it isn't. I don't have the full statement right here but it puts a different light on it.

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Sales of burqhas have soared.
With a marketing campaign like that, I'd buy one too!
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Hindu womyn,

I understand your disdain for islam...but I fail to understand why you fail to see the brutality of the Hindu religion.

Don't get me wrong, you probably felt this way about the hindu religion, it's just that all your post have been concentrated on Islam.

I once read an article about the rape of "untouchables" or lower caste, and the indifference of the Indian authorities on cnn.com. I guess they are only untouchables during the day time.
For one thing, I consider Islam to be more dangerous. Hindu religion can and sometimes is brutal, but there are two things that make it more acceptable:
It is nowhere as bad as the blind obedience demanded by Islam. You are allowed to criticse, while criticsm of Islam is met with death.
Hinduism has the capacity for change. This is why though I am a woman I hold a job and untouchables have their own chief minister.

I would like to have an atheist state, but since that is impossible then if given a choice between Islam and Hinduism I vote for the latter.
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OK, let's begin by citing that part of the Q'ran which dictates capital punishment for women who do not wear the burquah. For the second part of your homework, please discuss the historical background of Islam in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Pakistan, and the consequent doctrinal differences between those countries.
Arrowman, Quran does not have this punishment, but this is inevitable given how women are described --- they are property and subordinate to males. From there it is just a short step to going to such drastic lenghts. This is what happens when innovation is punishable by death and a sexmad paedophilic bloodthirsty gangster is held up to the most perfect of mankind, and noone is allowed to criticize anything. That is where all Islam's problems start.
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