Freethought & Rationalism ArchiveThe archives are read only. |
02-14-2002, 07:31 AM | #1 |
Regular Member
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Germany
Posts: 295
|
Armed Forces Network
I am an American living in Germany and often listen to AFN, the radio station of the US armed services. I don't know if the US TV shows they import or produce themselves are most neutral, but their radio program is grotesquely conservative and somewhat religious:
* The evening radio program is: Focus on the Family followed by Rush Limbeau followed by Dr. Laura! Sunday morning radio features "Rock of Ages"- contemporary Chrsitian music and some preachy talks and interviews. * There are occasional ads from the military chaplaincy to "make time for God" or "talk to your pastor". * There is nothing overtly liberal or critical. There is no grovelling for G.W. Bush and the news coverage seems fair and balanced, but none of the commentators or people giving advice do so without spooks and conservatism. I seriously doubt they show, for example, "Politically Correct" on AFN TV. Strel |
02-14-2002, 08:06 AM | #2 |
Contributor
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Los Angeles area
Posts: 40,549
|
Do you ever listen to "Le Show" with Harry Shearer? I believe it is or was on Armed Forces Radio. It is satire from a leftist perspective. I'll post a link later.
|
02-14-2002, 08:44 AM | #3 |
Veteran Member
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Denver, Colorado, USA
Posts: 4,834
|
If I had to guess I'd say that the officers are given a fairly free hand in selecting programing and that this reflects the bias of the officer corp. The U.S. military's officer corp has 9 Republicans for every Democrat and a conservative attitude to match. (The Enlisted ranks are less lopsidedly conservative, but still conservative leaning).
Still, pretty distrubing. Do you know who controls and operates AFR? |
02-14-2002, 09:15 AM | #4 | ||
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: New York
Posts: 5,441
|
The <a href="http://www.afrts.osd.mil/" target="_blank">Armed Forces Radio and Television Service (AFRTS)</a> administrates both AFN (Television) and AFR (Radio).
Excerpts from their FAQ (Propaganda alert!): Quote:
However, on another part of the page there is the ever-present "and special interests of the military" clause, which generally means conservatively biased programming to suit the conservatively biased majority of the military. Quote:
As for who's in charge: Well, as with all military sites, it's lacking a listing of who's in charge... obviously for security. However, I can hazard a guess that the operation is in fact run by an officer (probably a high-ranking army one at that), approved by another officer, and the forms are signed by yet another officer. Most of the workers, since it is a DoD function and not native to any particular branch of the armed forces, are likely to be civilian contractors and general service (GS) employees. [ February 14, 2002: Message edited by: Archangel ]</p> |
||
02-14-2002, 11:36 AM | #5 | |
Veteran Member
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: WI
Posts: 4,357
|
Quote:
|
|
02-14-2002, 01:58 PM | #6 |
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Afghanistan
Posts: 4,666
|
<inside Joke>
So tell me, are you going to go completely postal if you hear "And that is YOUR military heritage" one more time? </inside joke> A few of us here are likely to get it. AFN TV does not have commercials. Instead of putting shows back together to cover the gaps, they show military history propaganda of appropriate length, 99% of which end with that statement.... AIIIIIGH! I watched a LOT of Japanese TV because of that. Bonus, I became a regular addict of DragonBall Z. Tuesday, 19:00, Channel 7. Never missed an episoce in over a year in 1990-91. Years before mainstream America picked it up and translated it. A buddy used to do a running translation of relevent parts, and either he was far more creative than the original writers, or the American translation has been dumbed down. I suspect scenario #2... |
02-16-2002, 07:23 PM | #7 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 633
|
It really is humorous to hear you atheists, who so love to tout how pro-democracy you all are, whine and complain when the market sometimes favors conservative programming. You're upset when a majority of the programming is decided by what a majority would like to view and hear?
|
02-16-2002, 08:44 PM | #8 | |
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Waldorf MD
Posts: 78
|
Strelnieks:
I am an American living in Germany as well. I too have to endure the daily onslaught of programs such as "A Touch of Grace" every morning on my drive to work, etc. fromtheright: you said: Quote:
If this is not the federal government's endorsement of a particular religious view, then I don't know what is. A better solution would be to let these churches compete for themselves without the government paying for and promoting their viewpoint. Let them set up churches (off-base) in Germany, buy air time, and compete in the open market. The argument that the chaplaincy exist mainly to provide servicemembers with something (i.e. religious services) they could not otherwise obtain due to the nature of overseas service is pure hogwash. I can open my base paper or the Stars and Stripes everyday and find at least 30 ads for churches off-base that are english-speaking and not funded by the military. This is not simply the case here in Europe, but in the other places I have been (Japan, Korea, Honduras, Panama and many others), with the obvious exception of Saudi Arabia. Rich |
|
02-16-2002, 08:49 PM | #9 | |
Veteran Member
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Afghanistan
Posts: 4,666
|
Quote:
Ant that is another piece of YOUR military heritage.... |
|
02-16-2002, 09:04 PM | #10 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 633
|
Quote:
You apparently then didn't catch the point earlier made that the programming is largely decided based on ratings. And if the final decision is by "A few old men with shiny collars", guess what, that's military life, as is bitching and whining about crap with no recourse. Most of the complaining I've heard about AFRTS is the boring PSA's with no humorous commercials. |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|