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Old 06-20-2003, 06:07 AM   #41
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What horrifies me is that people actually believe the "hero" story against all the evidence! :banghead:
oh, I dunno, I know some people who are entirely willing to go on condemnation-trips without bothering to look at all the easily-available evidence first.............
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Old 06-20-2003, 06:46 AM   #42
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Anybody else but me think that the only reason for the whole thing was because she was attractive and a wasp? If it had been some ugly mexican bloke I doubt we'd even know his name.

I gave my "expert" opinion the day the story originally aired and was taken to task by many around here, it turns out I was almost 100% correct in every aspect, so "I told you so".

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Didn't they already make this movie, with Meg Ryan and Denzel Washington in it? Or am I getting my gulf wars mixed up again?

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Didn't they already make this movie, with Meg Ryan and Denzel Washington in it? Or am I getting my gulf wars mixed up again?
I think it was "The Jessica Lynch Story" and aired on one of the cable stations (A&E, Biography, some other one?). I haven't got a clue who acted in it.

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I only hope as a soldier she can be counted on to tell us the truth. OUR media made such a big thing about it with her coming home and going into hospital in Washington DC. IF she told anyone the whole story it would be the ranks above her in the military. And they should be the ony ones to know the whole story.
Laci,

Does My Lai ring any familiar bells?

Being in the military is no more an indicator of the honesty/integrity of a person than, oh, being a Catholic priest. There are good people who have been in the military (my dad and his brothers, my brother in law, and some of my friends to name a few - my draft number didn't get picked (thankfully) so I stayed out of the service) and bad ones.

That's one of the reasons people have been suggesting you look at various sources to crosscheck stories, and try to evaluate the veracity of any evidence that may be offered.

And even if strict truth is told, you need to try and see if ALL the truth was told - lies can be done by ommission as well as commission.

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Old 06-20-2003, 01:32 PM   #46
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Thank you for your feedback.
I like the way you discuss issues. Very calmly and rationally.

I will read more about Jessica Lynch and try to keep an open mind. I know there are good and bad people out there. But I must admit I have a deep respect for OUR military-- maybe almost blindly.

As you can tell I am a Bush supporter and have had to, on many other forums, defend him and the war.

If everyone spoke like you, I wouldn't keep replying and saying the same old thing. But I'm also very competitive as a person and older than alot, so I say what I think. And sometimes the younger people just let the media convince them of things that I've learned not to let happen with me.

 
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Yes, Oliver Stone is the perfect one (liberal to the hilt) to want to make it a movie.
Arrrggh! You missed my point yet again! :banghead:

It's uncanny! It's like you've been genetically programmed for this kind of thing! The horror! The horror!
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Laci, I think you will find on this board that regardless of political leanings most here are very skeptical of the media especially the major outlets. Not because of any alleged bias but because of laziness and political expediancy.

Personally I would prefer an openly biased media to what we have today. Atleast then the tough questions would be getting asked. In the past every city had newspapers that openly declared themselves Republican or Democrat. While there was certainly alot of propaganda spewed they were atleast treated the opposition to gauntlet of questioning. Today journalist suck-up to the politicians leaving the real questions to be asked on the editorial pages where most Americans never look.

I think this is why so many here turn to the CBC, BBC and other outside sources. There we know that our leaders are treated with skepticism and their actions are weighed against the good of the world not just the US.
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I think this is why so many here turn to the CBC, BBC and other outside sources. There we know that our leaders are treated with skepticism and their actions are weighed against the good of the world not just the US. [/B]
Thats a good point X. I am glad that Laci puts her views out and hope she sticks around.
Like Laci , I am pretty conservative but the Media is pretty weak in the US. The liberial bias complaint is a little true but I have come to the conclusion that the conservitives have overhyped that angle. I get a laugh when Fox news states "Fair and balanced" Yea, like staight from the Pentagon. The Flag waving is a bit much for me, but I tune in from time to time.
NBC news with Tom Brokejaw is a laugh a minute, where even the good news has a scary undertone,very liberal in my opionon.

I watch BBC and they of course have thier bias but it's pretty straight forward. The best BBC report I saw was from the war when they were showing the British military playing soccer with the villagers and then do a quick cut to another village where the townspeople are yelling at the Americans. It's pretty harmless but there is a slant there none the less.

CBC had the best overall war coverage with no nonsense reporting and twice as much battle coverage than anyone.

I have to throw in my .02 cents regarding Private Lynch since we are a little off topic. I really feel for her and her family , they have been thrust into a tight spot. I do believe she can't remember the accident, it nearly killed her. I thought her Father was pretty stand up about things, refusing to talk about any book/movie deals until his daughter is healed.
Hollywood is going to make her a hero regardless, and thats the downside. The Op's center never corrected the media about the story and that sucks as well. The rescue was overhyped but a rescue none the less. Everybody has to make up there own mind if she's a hero or not,and not have it forced down our throat.
I think she's a hero for just being there along with all the rest of our fighting forces. The reasons aside.
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The best BBC report I saw was from the war when they were showing the British military playing soccer with the villagers and then do a quick cut to another village where the townspeople are yelling at the Americans. It's pretty harmless but there is a slant there none the less.
Ouch. That's a bit below the belt, I must admit. Naughty Beeb.

OTOH, the Beeb has always been highly skeptical about the war (which came as a welcome relief from the American nationalism) and to their credit, they have absolutely crucified Blair on the issue of his dodgy WMD dossier.
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