alek0

This was posted by a mother one a Christian board:

All the responses she got was to pray, or at most to see a Christiancouncillor. Oh, and tons of "I'll pray for you" responses. Sure, that'll help. And of course support for homeschooling even though she is the only provider in the family. Here are some examples of wonderful advice given:

Are these people for real? I mean I've seen all sorts of nonsense on that board (pray for new car, pray for broken down washing machine, "enemy has a stronghold in my mother, she refuses to babysit kids while I'm in church", pray that terminally ill atheist father in law sees the light before he dies, etc.) but this is a serious matter. What kind of mother is that, to just tell her son to pray and think good thoughts when he tells her he wants to kill people? WTF? I'm surprised there weren't any suggestions by others on that board that it is all Satan's doing, but the post is recent and I bet there'll be such nonsense posted later. Argh, poor kids...

The Resistance

Well, IMO opinion, most people are unfit to be parents, but this... this... I don't know how to respond to this.

That kid needs some major councilling, and possibly medication. However, I assume we haven't be given the whole story (or that much of it is exaggerated by the mother). I am almost certain the child's personality comes from something at home.

alek0

Update of the situation. Mother herself thinks it is all Satan's work. Here are some quotes from her posts and some replys she got. I can't beleive this!


Replies she got:

ju'iblex

Terrible. Just terrible. A board full of people and not a single one can come up with a vaguely useful response, might as well just give up on the kid. Theres obviously no hope of real help for him.

I know thats appauling to say, how unfortunate there was little hope for him in the first place.

Bree

The saddest thing is that the children who are raised by these fanatics will not be seen as abnormal if they continue to reside in a fanatical Christian community. Unless they get out in the "real world" and understand that not everyone walks in fear of God, they won't understand their behaviour is abnormal.

butswana

This is sick. The kid picked that shit up somewhere. Mom is not telling the whole story.

Scotty

Amazing. No matter how many times I read about this shit it still surprises me.
Logical progression of events, piece these things together to come to a conclusion.
Get the kid in therapy.
Obviously the religion didn't help in the affair she had, and the child she had with that affair.

In this case, the religion is a crutch. They don't want to admit to their own problems, or what might be the cause of the problem "It isn't my fault, there must be some reason why this is happening, it can't be me! God will answer the problem if I just pray enough, and if I spend enough time praying I won't have time to work on the problem!

A sign of intelligence, for sure.

-Scott

owlafaye

I ran a small home appliance repair business in a small town in Oregon USA...the people there were fervent Christians;

1- I came across a dairy family and helpers on their knees in the Milking Barn. Asking what they were praying for they replied; "The milk is unacceptable, it is full of blood and antibiotics...we are praying that the Co-op doesn't discover it (random sampling) before pouring it in with the good milk."

2- When I casually remarked that the difficult stove acted like it was "possessed by the devil" the housewife ran from the house. I repaired it and convinced her I had purged the little demon and saw it run out the back door."

3- In a discussion with a family regarding religion, the net benefit of the discussion, was that the next Sunday it was announced from the pulpit of the church that I was an atheist and possessed by Satan and that they didn't recommend the congregation calling me for repairs.

4- After an all night repair at a Dairy Farm where the owner broke out two bottles of whiskey...he drunkenly stated that he had to have a Coca Cola because the Lord had told him to drink one after drinking alcohol and no one would be the wiser. He claimed his wife had no inkling of what he was doing...This man could barely walk as he entered his home for the night.

5- One pillar of the community was roundly known as the murderer of his 16 year old niece. It was well known within his church that he had been having sexual relations with her for years. Locally assigned investigators, Christian and part of the congregation were unable to solve the case.

6- A privately offered homestead was denied sale to me because I wasn't a Christian. It was sold to a drunken ne'er do well who only that month had accepted Jesus as his savior, and at a reduced price. The police regularly visit his home. He is in and out of jail and was convicted of having mfg.materials for amphetamines.

7- Package liquor store owners in the area insist that you put the bottle in a bag so the children in the community "don't know what is going on"...not a state law, by the way.

8- The Christian owned small super market charges $5 extra per carton of cigarettes. They want people to "pay" if they want to sin.

9- On Sunday parking laws are ignored around churches and police do not issue tickets...except to my service van of course. 50 illegally parked cars around the bank and I am a bank patron using the bank machine and getting a ticket.

10- We are talking selective intolerance here folks.

owlafaye

The children grow up in the image of their parents. This young boys problems are a DIRECT result of conditions within the home. Hypocrisy is the first thing they learn. Revenge and the power to act "In God's Name" are high up on the list. Intolerance comes naturally "we" and "them" is part of a group discussion whether kids drinking beer in the parking lot or the preacher from the pulpit on Sunday.

I have been to Christian sermons in mid-sized cities that were mostly milk and toast and the people were very open.

The danger is in the tiny towns and the tiny congregations. These small communities breed some truly strange children.

The community protects and covers up a lot of wild transgressions.

Having general access to homes through my business I can say that the homes for the most part are clean and orderly, but those that aren't are true "disasters" 10% of the homes in this Christian Community I service are true disasters and the children are imperiled. One family regularly adopts children and have 5 or 6 kids at any one time. I can't understand how the social workers miss it. You walk into the house and the trash is a uniform depth of 12 to 14" (Seriously) you actually "wade" through trash. There are babies strewn through this trash as if they were camping there. Couches with teenage kids and dairy helpers wives nattering away in the crying and smells of the dirty children. The dirt on their clothes is appalling. I had to actually use a shovel to clear trash away from the refrigerator in order to service it. None ventured to help.

No apologies. The woman worked part-time as an "Elderly Care Provider" she was a borderline moron.

These children have nothing beckoning out of their future. The ignorance level is amazing.

Captain Pedantic

That poor child is seriously disturbed in some way - possibly mentally ill and needing a lot of help. I can't believe people can give out such useless advice.

Just goes to show that religion doesn't necessarily change anyone for the better.