Rational BAC

Sure didn't.

Just shows how Man can screw up a wet dream.

winstonjen

If that's the case, how come more people are leaving Xianity at a time when science and religious freedom are at an all-time high?

River

Rational Bac

Well, How do I know if you wouldnt have been married to a 11 year old if you lived a millenia or 2 ago. Obviously, it would be culturally acceptable then. Who knows maybe you would be married to several 11-year olds? Its difficult to know exactly what you would do if you were removed from your "modern" stereotype friendly neighborhood.

Rational BAC

Golly River------

You edited my post so much that it is almost incomprehensible.

Is Allah that tight-assed on the subject of his prophet Muhammed?
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Sorry ---but 11 year old children are just too young. ---------- Way too young.

--------13 in some cases, maybe,--- depending on development. But even still------seems like "taking advantage" to me-------unless we are talking about a 13-14 year old boy. Anything much older than that is pretty disgusting to me.

And Muhammed was an old fart relatively speaking. He should have been ashamed of himself. He wasn't at all.

Muhammed was pure ego -------might makes right, my horniness outweighs all values, "you are either with us or against us"---(forgot --Pres Bush likes that one too.) ---Do as I say, not as I do.

All in all a very poor role model for anybody.

Sorry River, but Muhammed seems to be a real self centered SOB. (I may delete the last part, but will let it stay for now)

River

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Soul Invictus

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Originally posted by River In all blind hatred thats been going around between Israelis and Palestinians people tend to forget how similar Jews and Muslims really are. Regards, Invictus

The Muslims and Jews have very similar lifestyles. They both don't believe in Original Sin. Muslims and Jews believe in Holy Unity and deny that Jesus Christ was divine. Both Muslims, and Jews have similar fashion of preparing meat. Jews use a Kosher system for preparing meat , which is similar to Halal used by Muslims. Traditionally, both Muslim and Jewish males are circumsized. Muslims and Jews pray in a certain direction (Qibla). For example Muslims pray towards mecca, and Jews toward Juraselem. Muslims and Jews do not set up idols of G-ds or Prophets in statue form as stated in the 10 commandments. They both follow Leviticus (OT) where G-d clearly forbid man from eating swine. {Swine is very similar to hu-man meat. After, the primates, pigs are the most similar to humans in terms overall body physiology and biochemistry. For example , in biology labs pigs are the candidate of choice for performing Anatomy analysis. This is because the blood-fat ration on a pig and human are identical. The lateral number of degrees between the eyes of a pig and the facial symmetry of a human are analogous. The organ symmetry of a pig and human are very close, right down to the number of valves in the heart.....and their insulin is often used in humans}

River

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Soul Invictus

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Originally posted by River In fact, there are numerous verses in the Bible and the Book of Enoch that shows that Jesus and all Biblical Prophets prayed with their face on the ground. I've heard a lot about the Book of Enoch, however never really got the chance to look into it more. Would you care to refer me to a good source to read this...online or in paper? Also, is this book of significance in the Islamic faith? Is it held as a source, such as the Bible is to the Christian faith? Regards, Invictus

The Book of Enoch ( Idrees in Arabic) is more closely related to Islam...than say, Christianity. It differs from Islam in one trivial department. It speaks about Fallen Angels. Islam does not believe in Fallen Angels. However, the Fallen Angels descibed in Book of Enoch mimics the Islamic concept of Jinns very smoothly , and is probably what it meant. It describes Azzazel, who is described as Iblis( Satan) himself in Islamic Hadiths. It is usually, not used as a source but Muslims in general tend to like non-canonical / apochrypha scriptures. The Book of Enoch is only 49 pgs and is relatively easy to read. Here it is....

http://www.thenazareneway.com/book_of_enoch.htm

River

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Rational BAC

You forgot the cork screw penis.

River

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Soul Invictus

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Originally posted by River Do you know the lost 10 Tribes are mostly the Muslims of today. The Israel of today only consists of 2 tribes. Again, would you have any information to corroborate your claim. Also does your reference to Muslims allude to the conventional connotation of the term "Muslim", which would be an adherent of the Islamic faith, or are you speaking with respect to the non-sectarian and all inclusive definition of Muslim, being the "one who submits to God's will" reference? Invictus

The 10 Lost Tribes have been disputed for quite some time. However, recently it has been theorized that the 10 lost tribes include Afghanis, Kashmiris, and the Pathans of Pakistan [ much greater population-wise than the Israeli- Israelites]...and they are predominantly Muslim peoples. And a famous rabbi scholar had some really interesting/intellectual things to say....

http://www.moshiach.com/features/tribes/kashmir.php

http://www.moshiach.com/features/tribes/afghanistan.php

River

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Soul Invictus

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Originally posted by River We are closer to your Christian Gnostics than you think possible..... Are you referring to in the spiritual sense or in ideology? I'm wondering if you're going the "Jews as an ethnicity" route.. Regards, Invictus

Christian Gnostics generally believe that the crucifixtion was a clever illusion and hoax. Islam does not believe that Jesus Christ (pbuh) was ever crucified.....instead he Ascended directly to heaven following the route of only a select few elite prophets like Enoch, Elijah, and Khidr. In general Gnosticism and Islamic Sufism share a similar outlook, though Gnosticism, gets rather vague at times. Gospel of Thomas is one of many Gnostic texts and parallels the Islamic concept of Jesus Christ (pbuh).