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Old 04-15-2002, 01:56 PM   #41
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<strong>My sincere prayer and hope is that all will be saved.</strong>
Does that include those who are not True Christians (TM), like, oh, Episcopalians, Methodists, Lutherans and such? How about Islamists and Jews?

Come clean: your sincere prayer and hope is that all who think the same way you do will be saved.

Here's a question for you, feel free not to answer. At the end of your life would you rather have perfect justice or perfect mercy?

Allow me to introduce myself and my family: I am a True Atheist married to a True Catholic; we have a True English Springer Spaniel puppy. Threaten us with your Hell if you feel you need to; it won't change the way any of us think. As I always say, Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.

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Old 04-15-2002, 02:15 PM   #42
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Old 04-15-2002, 02:41 PM   #43
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Y’know, once you decide you’re going to hell it’s pretty much party time ALL the time. I mean, what’s God gonna do, send you to double hell, or under hell? Seems quite liberating to me.

Besides, if I had the choice between spending eternity in heaven with a bunch of sanctimonious Xtians like this one, or in hell with a lot of interesting infidels I’ll take hell anytime.

As far as I’m concerned True Christian you can take your threats of hell and go to hell. It’s Xtians like you that make me realize how ugly and dangerous a religion it can be.
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It's cute how contemporary believers will preach Hell and then hide behind the alleged words of a man who (may have) lived about two-thousand years ago. They're not really moral cripples, they insist; they are just passing along the information provided them by peole who thought, among other things, that diseases are caused by demonic possession and that the end of the world was imminent.

The moral and intellectual bankruptcy of Christianity is astonishing.
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Old 04-15-2002, 02:48 PM   #45
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<strong>Y’know, once you decide you’re going to hell it’s pretty much party time ALL the time. I mean, what’s God gonna do, send you to double hell, or under hell? Seems quite liberating to me.
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Old 04-15-2002, 02:50 PM   #46
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I will tell you that I'm not afraid to preach Hell in my witnessing...I'd rather speak of the enormous love that the Lord has for us all.

OK, which is it, Hell or enormous love? The two concepts are contradictory and impossible to reconcile in one god.
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Old 04-15-2002, 02:51 PM   #47
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"I will tell you that I'm not afraid to preach Hell in my witnessing. It's the duty of all Christians to preach Hell because our Lord Jesus Christ preached it."

Where does he do this? The Sermon on the Mount? The Lord's Prayer?
A breif statement about calling someone a fool and you 'risk' the Judgement, The rich man who would not give away all he had to follow Jesus? Do all Christians give away all their stuff? And an example about cutting off you hand if it offends you, is this a common practice? The word 'hell' does not appear in John's Gospel, was he out sick the day Jesus brought this up?
It seems to me Jesus spoke very little about hell and when he did he used the word 'Gehenna' which was a physical place on the outskirts of Jerusalem, is this where we go when we die?
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Old 04-15-2002, 03:08 PM   #48
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I'm not certain why my introduction was moved to a discussion forum. My introduction was not up for discussion. I was simply trying to tell everyone a little about myself.

I think it was moved because the thread turned into a discussion.

I am not obligated to answer any of the questions in this thread because I did not initiate any specific topic here.

It's up to you but I think you'll find that people here will respect you a lot more if you try to answer their questions as well as telling them your beliefs/opinions.

No-one is that excited about talking to an 'output only' person, as it were...it doesn't make for much of a discussion!

I will tell you that I'm not afraid to preach Hell in my witnessing. It's the duty of all Christians to preach Hell because our Lord Jesus Christ preached it. Any Christian who does not preach Hell is not a true Christian, and there are plenty of them in this country. I certainly don't think that Hell is a nice thing but the Lord has given us a choice in this life, either be with or without Him for eternity.

Correct me if I'm wrong - in Matthew 28 Jesus said to go make disciples of all nations, did he not? Being a disciple is about what you do in this life - right?

I'd rather speak of the enormous love that the Lord has for us all, even for those who don't believe in His Son.

You'll find that people here aren't very impressed with 'look how much I love you - enough that you're going to be tortured forever!' If that's how He loves those who don't believe in His Son, you'll probably find their response is "then go 'love' someone else, please!" Except that most of them don't believe in a personal God so I suppose they won't actually have any response to such a Being.

He has provided a simple path for us in life. My sincere prayer and hope is that all will be saved.

I would like that.

Most conservative Christians, though, think the majority of people are not going to be saved. So it's rather a futile hope, then...

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Old 04-15-2002, 03:47 PM   #49
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<strong>I will tell you that I'm not afraid to preach Hell in my witnessing.</strong>

Well, that's great. So tell me a little more about this "Hell". How exactly will I be tortured there? Will your god recreate my body in order that I can feel pain, or does the soul possess its own nerve endings?

<strong>It's the duty of all Christians to preach Hell because our Lord Jesus Christ preached it.</strong>

Is it also the duty of all Christians to walk on water because your Lord Jesus Christ did so?

Because if it is, I would love to see you cross the Atlantic on your bare feet. Heck, Lake Michigan would suffice.

<strong>Any Christian who does not preach Hell is not a true Christian</strong>

And would this person also burn in Hell? Would they be tortured as much as an atheist would be, or worse?

<strong>and there are plenty of them in this country.</strong>

So... this country is Hell?

<strong>I certainly don't think that Hell is a nice thing</strong>

But all the evil people are there, right? So how can it not be a nice thing? I mean, it's keeping all the wicked people away from you and the other True Christians.

<strong>but the Lord has given us a choice in this life, either be with or without Him for eternity. </strong>

And if you choose to be without Him, then He orders that you be tortured for all eternity?

<strong>I'd rather speak of the enormous love that the Lord has for us all,</strong>

Can we finish discussing the topic of Hell first?

<strong>even for those who don't believe in His Son.</strong>

Like the Aborigines and ancient Mayans and so on who died before the white man managed to reach their countries?

<strong>He has provided a simple path for us in life.</strong>

Would that we were all simple so that we could follow it!

<strong>My sincere prayer and hope is that all will be saved.</strong>

From your God? I should certainly hope so.
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Barbara, you are truly His gift to this forum. Welcome.

(I may have erred in my previous post.)
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