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Blinn · 06-29-2002, 08:26 PM

Know their histry real good...

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When Theodore Roosevelt added "One Nation under God" in 1954 he said that now the children would be able to affirm the sovereignty of God in this country daily.

<a href="http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=000264;p=2" target="_blank">Baptist babbling</a>

B. H. Manners · 06-29-2002, 08:36 PM

Theodore died in 1919 so he must have been risen from the dead. Have the Baptists explain why that was not made a big deal of in the newspapers of the time and books written about it, just as the resurrection of the saints at Christ's crucifiction seemed to have been lost to historians as well.

Just out of curiosity did not Teddy Roosevelt say that he did not really believe in the god of the bible but only believed religion had one purpose which was teaching youngsters the values of the society they lived in?

Daydreamer · 06-29-2002, 09:35 PM

They probably thought FDR was the President in 1954, and mistook Teddy for him. Still a moronic mistake.

Autonemesis · 06-29-2002, 09:41 PM

And this little gem from the same thread is charming:

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I should think after Semptember 11 we wouldn't be so quik to forgett. It could have been so much worse, but God in His grace didn't allow it to be worse.

<img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

I think I should go sign up over there for a little trolling.

(why don't we have an :evilgrin: emoticon?)

Buffman · 06-30-2002, 01:19 AM

BH

Just out of curiosity did not Teddy Roosevelt say that he did not really believe in the god of the bible but only believed religion had one purpose which was teaching youngsters the values of the society they lived in?

Please quote your source for this!

Born Free · 06-30-2002, 01:23 AM

You know this "saved by grace 1999" person is just asking to be slapped.

Why is it that rather a large number of christians can't spell to save themselves never mind anyone else???

You could forgive the really big words like perolous and hypocratical but basic simple words like angrey, wheither, forgett, certianly and contry??? <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

Writer@Large · 06-30-2002, 04:32 AM

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Originally posted by Buffman:
Just out of curiosity did not Teddy Roosevelt say that he did not really believe in the god of the bible but only believed religion had one purpose which was teaching youngsters the values of the society they lived in?

Please quote your source for this!

Here's Roosevelt's opinion on the "In God We Trust" motto being placed on coins:

<a href="http://www.dispatch.com/news/features01/jan01/rooseveltletter.html" target="_blank">Roosevelt Leter.</a>

According to <a href="http://www.ffrf.org/issues/pray.html" target="_blank">this FFRF tract</a>:

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Presidents Ulysses S. Grant and Theodore Roosevelt spoke up for what Roosevelt called "absolutely nonsectarian public schools." Roosevelt added that it is "not our business to have the Protestant Bible or the Catholic Vulgate or the Talmud read in these schools."

From the Positive Atheism <a href="http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/quote-r1.htm" target="_blank">Quote Page</a>:

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I hold that in this country there must be complete severance of Church and State; that public moneys shall not be used for the purpose of advancing any particular creed; and therefore that the public schools shall be nonsectarian and no public moneys appropriated for sectarian schools.
-- Theodore Roosevelt, address, Carnegie Hall, October 12, 1915, from Albert J. Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

To discriminate against a thoroughly upright citizen because he belongs to some particular church, or because, like Abraham Lincoln, he has not avowed his allegiance to any church, is an outrage against that liberty of conscience which is one of the foundations of American life.
-- Theodore Roosevelt, letter to J. C. Martin, November 9, 1908, from Albert J. Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

If there is one thing for which we stand in this country, it is for complete religious freedom, and it is an emphatic negation of this right to cross-examine a man on his religion before being willing to support him for office.
-- Theodore Roosevelt, letter to J. C. Martin, November 9, 1908, from Albert J. Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

Because we are unqualifiedly and without reservation against any system of denominational schools, maintained by the adherents of any creed with the help of state aid, therefore, we as strenuously insist that the public schools shall be free from sectarian influences, and above all, free from any attitude of hostility to the adherents of any particular creed.
-- Theodore Roosevelt, quoted in Reuben Maury, The Wars of the Godly, 1928, p. 213, quoted from from Albert J. Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

I believe that this Republic will endure for many centuries. If so there will doubtless be among its Presidents Protestants and Catholics, and very probably at some time, Jews. I have consistently tried while President to act in relation to my fellow Americans of Catholic faith as I hope that any future President who happens to be Catholic will act towards his fellow Americans of Protestant faith. Had I followed any other course I should have felt that I was unfit to represent the American people.
-- Theodore Roosevelt, letter to J. C. Martin, November 9, 1908, from Albert J. Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

Not specificaly what BH stated above, but the man was obviously a C/S Separation supporter.

--W@L

lpetrich · 06-30-2002, 09:42 AM

I wonder if that poor spelling is from being home-schooled

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06-29-2002, 08:36 PM	#2
B. H. Manners Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,213	Theodore died in 1919 so he must have been risen from the dead. Have the Baptists explain why that was not made a big deal of in the newspapers of the time and books written about it, just as the resurrection of the saints at Christ's crucifiction seemed to have been lost to historians as well. Just out of curiosity did not Teddy Roosevelt say that he did not really believe in the god of the bible but only believed religion had one purpose which was teaching youngsters the values of the society they lived in?

06-29-2002, 09:35 PM	#3
Daydreamer Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 221	They probably thought FDR was the President in 1954, and mistook Teddy for him. Still a moronic mistake.

06-30-2002, 01:19 AM	#5
Buffman Beloved Deceased Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: central Florida Posts: 3,546	BH Just out of curiosity did not Teddy Roosevelt say that he did not really believe in the god of the bible but only believed religion had one purpose which was teaching youngsters the values of the society they lived in? Please quote your source for this!

06-30-2002, 01:23 AM	#6
Born Free Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,177	You know this "saved by grace 1999" person is just asking to be slapped. Why is it that rather a large number of christians can't spell to save themselves never mind anyone else??? You could forgive the really big words like perolous and hypocratical but basic simple words like angrey, wheither, forgett, certianly and contry??? <img src="graemlins/banghead.gif" border="0" alt="[Bang Head]" />

06-30-2002, 09:42 AM	#8
lpetrich Contributor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Lebanon, OR, USA Posts: 16,829	I wonder if that poor spelling is from being home-schooled

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